NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-14-2014, 06:35 PM
thehoodedcoder thehoodedcoder is offline
Kevin Qui.nn
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 780
Default New Slabs

Cracking some stuff out so I decided to play around a little.

Lets hope the new slabs can prevent this from being so easy: Caution, not for the faint of heart

kevin
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-14-2014, 06:46 PM
4815162342's Avatar
4815162342 4815162342 is online now
Daryl
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,245
Default

Woah!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-14-2014, 06:52 PM
thehoodedcoder thehoodedcoder is offline
Kevin Qui.nn
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 780
Default

zero frosting is pretty scary. huh?

kevin
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-14-2014, 07:00 PM
vintagetoppsguy vintagetoppsguy is offline
D@v!d J@m3s
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,981
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder View Post
zero frosting is pretty scary. huh?

kevin
The frosting is there. Scan it against a black background and you'll see it.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-14-2014, 07:01 PM
thehoodedcoder thehoodedcoder is offline
Kevin Qui.nn
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 780
Default

i already cracked it.

i can assure you there was no frosting. you are looking at scanner glare. the slab was not compromised on left side.

i did it and held it in my hand and held it up to a black background.

there was no visible way, what so ever to determine how the slab was compromised.

kevin

Last edited by thehoodedcoder; 01-14-2014 at 07:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-15-2014, 12:04 AM
the 'stache's Avatar
the 'stache the 'stache is offline
Bill Gregory
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
Posts: 3,915
Default

Kevin, please tell me that wasn't the first slab you attempted to crack.
__________________
Building these sets: T206, 1953 Bowman Color, 1975 Topps.

Great transactions with: piedmont150, Cardboard Junkie, z28jd, t206blogcom, tinkertoeverstochance, trobba, Texxxx, marcdelpercio, t206hound, zachs, tolstoi, IronHorse 2130, AndyG09, BBT206, jtschantz, lug-nut, leaflover, Abravefan11, mpemulis, btcarfagno, BlueSky, and Frankbmd.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-15-2014, 12:51 AM
freakhappy's Avatar
freakhappy freakhappy is offline
Mike C@.v3
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: OHIO
Posts: 2,103
Default

Blasphemy!

In PSA's dreams
__________________
T206's Graded low-mid 219/520
T201's SGC/PSA 2-5 50/50
T202's SGC/PSA 2-5 10/132
1938 Goudey Graded VG range 37/48
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-15-2014, 06:14 AM
thehoodedcoder thehoodedcoder is offline
Kevin Qui.nn
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 780
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by the 'stache View Post
Kevin, please tell me that wasn't the first slab you attempted to crack.
Nope, but this is the first time I really tried to see how well I could do it.

I really didn't even have to split the slab. I was able to remove the flip and insert a new flip without any cracking or frosting.

Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-15-2014, 06:47 AM
the 'stache's Avatar
the 'stache the 'stache is offline
Bill Gregory
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
Posts: 3,915
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder View Post
Nope, but this is the first time I really tried to see how well I could do it.

I really didn't even have to split the slab. I was able to remove the flip and insert a new flip without any cracking or frosting.

Kevin
That's really disturbing. But, it just reinforces how important buying the card, and not the flip, is.

I hope this new PSA slab proves to be much more tamper resistant. I wonder, too, if SGC will change their slab somehow.
__________________
Building these sets: T206, 1953 Bowman Color, 1975 Topps.

Great transactions with: piedmont150, Cardboard Junkie, z28jd, t206blogcom, tinkertoeverstochance, trobba, Texxxx, marcdelpercio, t206hound, zachs, tolstoi, IronHorse 2130, AndyG09, BBT206, jtschantz, lug-nut, leaflover, Abravefan11, mpemulis, btcarfagno, BlueSky, and Frankbmd.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-15-2014, 07:01 AM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 9,836
Default

The cracking of a PSA slab and resealing it with no visual evidence has been done since the beginning. I though it was common knowledge like the trimmed Wagner.

My opinion is PSA used these junk slabs as long as possible before changing. Now they will start covertly advertising how easy they are to crack so they can make a killing on reslabbing with the new holder.

I have never had any luck cracking a SGC slab without noticeable damage. Anyone else have better luck?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-15-2014, 07:03 AM
thehoodedcoder thehoodedcoder is offline
Kevin Qui.nn
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 780
Default

should be pretty easy also.

the frosting can be removed pretty easily with stuff that removes frosting, such as headlight defogging tool kits from your local car store.

kevin

Last edited by thehoodedcoder; 01-15-2014 at 07:04 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-15-2014, 07:06 AM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 9,836
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder View Post
should be pretty easy also.

the frosting can be removed pretty easily with stuff that removes frosting, such as headlight defogging from your local car store.

kevin
Have you tried this? I do not understand how internal frosting could be removed that way.

I have "heard" a paint stripper(heat gun) will remover the frosting, but takes practice to not warp the holder.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-15-2014, 07:40 AM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,986
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth View Post
The cracking of a PSA slab and resealing it with no visual evidence has been done since the beginning. I though it was common knowledge like the trimmed Wagner.
Apparently not common knowledge after all

Last edited by savedfrommyspokes; 01-15-2014 at 07:42 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-15-2014, 07:41 AM
jhs5120's Avatar
jhs5120 jhs5120 is offline
Jason S!m@nds
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth View Post
The cracking of a PSA slab and resealing it with no visual evidence has been done since the beginning. I though it was common knowledge like the trimmed Wagner.

My opinion is PSA used these junk slabs as long as possible before changing. Now they will start covertly advertising how easy they are to crack so they can make a killing on reslabbing with the new holder.

I have never had any luck cracking a SGC slab without noticeable damage. Anyone else have better luck?
I can generally pull apart an ozersized SGC slab with my fingers without any noticeable damage lol
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-15-2014, 07:52 AM
thehoodedcoder thehoodedcoder is offline
Kevin Qui.nn
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 780
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth View Post
Have you tried this? I do not understand how internal frosting could be removed that way.

I have "heard" a paint stripper(heat gun) will remover the frosting, but takes practice to not warp the holder.
no. i don't really have to much interest in trying to make a perfect fake.

what internal frosting? have you cracked an sgc slab before?

all of the frosting is simply bits of plastic on the surface of the plastic holder around the lip/ledge where it seals. if you are physically causing the plastic to fracture deeper than that, then i would say you have done something wrong.

i would try it, im out of the headlight cleaning solution. i see no reason it will not work though, based on what i am looking at, given scrubbing it alone with a green sink sponge makes it look better

kevin

Last edited by thehoodedcoder; 01-15-2014 at 07:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-15-2014, 08:07 AM
pawpawdiv9's Avatar
pawpawdiv9 pawpawdiv9 is offline
Chr!$ M!ll!c@n
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: GA
Posts: 2,728
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by the 'stache View Post
I wonder, too, if SGC will change their slab somehow.
On our SGC boards i remember reading this:


EARLSWORLD Administrator
Pooh-Bah


Registered: 11/15/08
Posts: 1926

Offline
Originally Posted By: SMtJoy
Yup sure would be nice to hear something!

Hi all ~ I seen the post and thought it would be a great opportunity to to share some of the up and coming things SGC will be unveiling soon. As many of you may know, SGC has been working to redesign the website both its look and overall functionality. Some of the problems with the online submission form, POP Report and other things are being changed. SGC is already nearing the final stages of unveiling its newly designed thin-line holder and new SGC label. This will replace our regular holder that is most commonly used for all issues except "tall boy" cards and over-sized. There will also be a new SGC Authentic label for any encapsulated autographed items. The new authentic label will in time be able to show both a card grade and auto grade. Autograph grading is now available but will be displayed a little differently on the label than what will be in the near future. SGC is also looking ahead at redesigning more holders in the near future. As you can see (and as promised), SGC is being very proactive in making our mark in the Hobby and grading industry. We continue to pride ourselves in the high quality we offer in both our grading & customer service.
__________________
1916-20 UNC Big Heads
Need: Ping Bodie
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-15-2014, 08:52 AM
I Only Smoke 4 the Cards's Avatar
I Only Smoke 4 the Cards I Only Smoke 4 the Cards is offline
Alex
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,114
Default

Always buy the card. Didn't someone sell a bunch of broken cases and/or labels recently?
__________________
Tackling the Monster
T206 = 213/524
HOFs = 13/76
SLers = 33/48
Horizontals = 6/6

ALWAYS looking for T206 with back damage.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Card Slabs brownscollector78 Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 7 03-04-2012 10:32 AM
PSA Slabs Batter67up Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 10-30-2009 06:00 PM
BVS Slabs Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 13 05-23-2008 09:20 AM
Slabs and UV Light Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 9 10-30-2007 09:47 PM
SGC Slabs and Tampering Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 12 10-04-2007 08:49 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:21 PM.


ebay GSB