Pwcc

[1952boyntoncollector]

if dont like pwcc prices..have fun with those great BINs on ebay...real bargains there

plus buying almost any key 50s rookie card from pwcc 8 months ago certainly would look like a great deal now..

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

if dont like pwcc prices..have fun with those great BINs on ebay...real bargains there

plus buying almost any key 50s rookie card from pwcc 8 months ago certainly would look like a great deal now..

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[Pilot172000]

I have had good luck on some deals with his auctions. Trying hard not to spend any more money but this current auction is making it really hard.

[botn]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

plus buying almost any key 50s rookie card from pwcc 8 months ago certainly would look like a great deal now..

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Now that is funny.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by botn

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

Problem with "anyone else" is they are either an AH that shills and uses 1980's software to cover it up, or they're BIN trollers with cards 1 to 2 grades lower than the flip and at 2x VCP.

Time is money, and PWCC doesn't waste my time like these other bozos.

[begsu1013]

buying groups.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

buying groups.

No, just stiff competition for nice cards. Including those that double in a week, or even overnight as we just saw with Ryan. Carry on.

[bobbyw8469]

Very odd. Sustainable? Or like the real estate/dot com bubble? I guess time will tell.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No, just stiff competition for nice cards. Including those that double in a week, or even overnight as we just saw with Ryan. Carry on.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Very odd. Sustainable? Or like the real estate/dot com bubble? I guess time will tell.

Ask Bob.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Very odd. Sustainable? Or like the real estate/dot com bubble? I guess time will tell.

easy to pay ton for card if planning on flipping it and not holding it.....hmm thats what happened with real estate too...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Problem with "anyone else" is they are either an AH that shills and uses 1980's software to cover it up, or they're BIN trollers with cards 1 to 2 grades lower than the flip and at 2x VCP.

Time is money, and PWCC doesn't waste my time like these other bozos.

I disagree. I've bought many very nice cards at good prices from sellers in addition to PWCC. You may be describing some people accurately but not nearly the universe. Many guys who list BINs are very flexible and only list high to encourage direct sales.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I disagree. I've bought many very nice cards at good prices from sellers in addition to PWCC. You may be describing some people accurately but not nearly the universe. Many guys who list BINs are very flexible and only list high to encourage direct sales.

like 707?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

like 707?

I have not bought anything from Levi in a long time.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have not bought anything from Levi in a long time.

look how much he counters you on a BIN...try 10 examples..let me know if he goes down by more than 1 or 2%

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by botn

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

Exactly!!! Some of the peanut sellers practically gave stuff away! A much better deal buying from one of them.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by botn

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

i guess you are referring to those great BINs...and people never want new records highs or think they have the best example of a card for the grade when dealing with private sellers...and of course private sellers never list a card and when cant get what they want do the 'ill keep it'

theres no 'ill keep it' with pwcc..if you win the item you going to get the card 99.99% i assume...pwcc doesnt say 'ill keep it..


too easy to say you get a better deal buying direct...the other issue is from who? you see people begging for cards on net54 all the time even offering reward to people who can find the card....and that sought after card can and does show up on in a pwcc auction on more than one occasion....easy to say its cheaper somewhere else ..without knowing where somewhere else is.....not saying you can never find a better deal somewhere else but you cant say the opposite either

[botn]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i guess you are referring to those great BINs...and people never want new records highs or think they have the best example of a card for the grade when dealing with private sellers...and of course private sellers never list a card and when cant get what they want do the 'ill keep it'

theres no 'ill keep it' with pwcc..if you win the item you going to get the card 99.99% i assume...pwcc doesnt say 'ill keep it..


too easy to say you get a better deal buying direct...the other issue is from who? you see people begging for cards on net54 all the time even offering reward to people who can find the card....and that sought after card can and does show up on in a pwcc auction on more than one occasion....easy to say its cheaper somewhere else ..without knowing where somewhere else is.....not saying you can never find a better deal somewhere else but you cant say the opposite either

There are many other options outside of PWCC for buying cards. Just look in VCP and pick any card and look at what PWCC gets for it in a particular month and then look at others which have sold for in the same month. The PWCC premium is material.

[jmb]

This is approximately a $1000 card listed last night. 92 bids, really, most one user ID ? Just a complete waste of time. Who has the time to bid that many times ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Goudey-...EAAOSwQaJXTJHW

[Snapolit1]

Guy apparently does the same thing on comic book related toys, so who knows. Seems like a huge waste of time and energy to me. You are not getting a $1000 card for $200. He should know that. So bid $500 and see what happens. Not that you will get it at $500 either. . . .

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Guy apparently does the same thing on comic book related toys, so who knows. Seems like a huge waste of time and energy to me. You are not getting a $1000 card for $200. He should know that. So bid $500 and see what happens. Not that you will get it at $500 either. . . .

He has 77 bids on it so far lol.

[swarmee]

There are some shill bidders who make tons of incremental bids in order to get their item higher in the search rankings or the Hottest cards list.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by botn

There are many other options outside of PWCC for buying cards. Just look in VCP and pick any card and look at what PWCC gets for it in a particular month and then look at others which have sold for in the same month. The PWCC premium is material.

lets check 1951 bowman psa 4-5 mantles and the same waterfront cards..check out hank aaron 1954 topps....lets test the theory....you will see the other auction sites get record prices on the hot cards .pwcc has an auction every month which isnt like other places.....getting something now versus waiting later is worth something too...and also just having it avialable..

[botn]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

lets check 1951 bowman psa 4-5 mantles and the same waterfront cards..check out hank aaron 1954 topps....lets test the theory....you will see the other auction sites get record prices on the hot cards .pwcc has an auction every month which isnt like other places.....getting something now versus waiting later is worth something too...and also just having it avialable..

There are far more cards than the "waterfront" cards which are selling right now and in the recent past and in most cases if you look in VCP and compare PWCC results to others sold at the same time, PWCC's sell for more...much more. Knock yourself out and take a look.

[Touch'EmAll]

...none of this mainstream stuff is rare, just expensive.

Here we go again with demand far more important than supply to determine price. Looking at PSA pops for some expensive cards (RC's) and I shake my head the prices are so high considering hundreds upon hundreds are out there.

Then look at the 1920's exhibits of Ruth, Gehrig, Hornsby and Walter Johnson - minuscule pops. Or the 1940 Foxx SGC 88 I posted has PSA pop of like 9 in the grade.

Looking at a past post, as a kid in the 70's I always wanted to pull Ryan, Seaver, Jackson, Rose, etc. - didn't give a darn about rookies - actually was disappointed with the rookies. I wanted any All Star with the extra all star ink/shield/star way more than any rookie. Then around early 1980's RC's started to become popular. I remember going back and scrounging for a stacked and forgotten Dale Murphy rc, or an Ozzie rc or an Eckersly rc - found them, and remember selling them as I thought they were overpriced way back then.