OT: Derek Jeter Forgeries On Counterfeit Cards

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Have you spoken to the guys at probstein to let them know? They may need to know about all of the different forgeries out there so they can avoid them.

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

This is exactly what I thought would happen....

When buyers of the forged/counterfeit Sandy Koufax 2000 SP Authentic cards discover what they really own they will consign them to consignment specialists like Probstein123...

He recently sold one for $157.50.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-SP-Aut...p2047675.l2557




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[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Have you spoken to the guys at probstein to let them know? They may need to know about all of the different forgeries out there so they can avoid them.

Adam, Probstein123 (Rick) has never responded to my emails over the years when I inform him of a forgery in his listings.

He sold one of these a couple of years ago.



https://live.autographmagazine.com/f...ource=activity

[thetruthisoutthere]

Same sellers as the Jeter and Koufax cards.

Just like the Koufax cards that came out of the 2000 SP Authentic product, which was a tough pull, same with the Johnny Unitas 2001 Upper Deck Legends card.



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[chalupacollects]

I had heard that Upper Deck is not really concerned with the fake autograph side of it with these cards but the fact that someone (maybe in China) is replicating the whole card selling them wholesale to buyers in the USA with the hologram on it. And that may be what brings the Feds into this...

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

I had heard that Upper Deck is not really concerned with the fake autograph side of it with these cards but the fact that someone (maybe in China) is replicating the whole card selling them wholesale to buyers in the USA with the hologram on it. And that may be what brings the Feds into this...

I already know that Upper Deck doesn't give a hoot, but I am hoping that we can trace the source of the counterfeit cards via certain means.

A member here told me that another member here on Net54 says "That Tntnorthnj is a good guy."

If that's the case, maybe that member can communicate with Tntnorthnj and I am sure he will absolutely want to assist the hobby in locating the source of these counterfeit cards.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

I had heard that Upper Deck is not really concerned with the fake autograph side of it with these cards but the fact that someone (maybe in China) is replicating the whole card selling them wholesale to buyers in the USA with the hologram on it. And that may be what brings the Feds into this...

Most likely afraid they'll get caught again.

[Yastrzemski Sports]

These cards each probably average around $100 each - Koufax, Kobe, Jeter, Unitas, Harper, etc. what’s the difference between printing the fake card and printing a $100 bill? Looks to me like it’s the same thing.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

These cards each probably average around $100 each - Koufax, Kobe, Jeter, Unitas, Harper, etc. what’s the difference between printing the fake card and printing a $100 bill? Looks to me like it’s the same thing.

I agree!!!!

One of those sellers, in my opinion, must know the source of those cards.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Same sellers as the Jeter and Koufax cards.

Just like the Koufax cards that came out of the 2000 SP Authentic product, which was a tough pull, same with the Johnny Unitas 2001 Upper Deck Legends card.



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Ebay seller lyonhrt7777 has sold nine (9) of these since mid January.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Ebay seller Tntnorthnj sold more than a few of the below-style Derek Jeter forgery on one of those 1995 Upper Deck counterfeit cards.

Observe the raised "R" in "Jeter" on the front of the card.



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[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Ebay seller Tntnorthnj sold more than a few of the below-style Derek Jeter forgery on one of those 1995 Upper Deck counterfeit cards.

Observe the raised "R" in "Jeter" on the front of the card.



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Evidently TNTNorthnj doesn't know autographs.

Look at this train wreck listed by them.




https://www.ebay.com/itm/JOE-DIMAGGI...MAAOSwVHRcuonH



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[thetruthisoutthere]

I just posted a blog on the Sandy Koufax Forged/Counterfeit "2000 SP Authentic" cards.

No coincidence that the all of the Ebay sellers (primarily TNTNorthNJ and Lyonhrt7777) of the forged/counterfeit cards stopped listing them after I posted my blog on the Jeter counterfeit/forged cards.


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Below is the link.


https://live.autographmagazine.com/p...ogPost:1337379

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Ebay seller Tntnorthnj sold more than a few of the below-style Derek Jeter forgery on one of those 1995 Upper Deck counterfeit cards.

Observe the raised "R" in "Jeter" on the front of the card.

Great effort Chris. The forger really had a problem with the letter 'R' - it's lower on 'Derek'.

It looks like a one-run card printing, as they never corrected their problems.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Great effort Chris. The forger really had a problem with the letter 'R' - it's lower on 'Derek'.

It looks like a one-run card printing, as they never corrected their problems.

Thank you, Scott.

As someone who knows Derek's autograph, those are all train wrecks.

The forger(s) penned multiple forgery styles.



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