Input needed on a developing ebay buyer situation

[swarmee]

Yeah, which cert number is he claiming you sent him? Seems to obvious for you to not have considered. I keep almost all cards I own on my inventory/set registry and then only release them once I've sold the card. That way I can track if other people try to add a card I still own and report them to PSA.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Yeah, which cert number is he claiming you sent him? Seems to obvious for you to not have considered. I keep almost all cards I own on my inventory/set registry and then only release them once I've sold the card. That way I can track if other people try to add a card I still own and report them to PSA.

He is claiming I sent him cert# 14491605 (according to PSA - no information available). I sent him cert# 17980933 (currently listed in my PSA inventory).

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by hcv123

He is claiming I sent him cert# 14491605 (according to PSA - no information available). I sent him cert# 17980933 (currently listed in my PSA inventory).

This card was sold on ebay on 4/9/2010 and it looks like you purchased
it Howard.

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[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Pat R

This card was sold on ebay on 4/9/2010 and it looks like you purchased
it Howard.

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Whoa! Super confused now. Looks like might have been my mistake. Is that from VCP?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by hcv123

Whoa! Super confused now. Looks like might have been my mistake. Is that from VCP?

Yes it is from VCP Howard.

[hcv123]

I hate when my imperfect human side shows - especially so publicly. While the whereabouts of the listed card is still unknown, based on the fact that I did purchase the card in question in 2010 (Thanks again Pat), I'm going to presume this is my mistake and do what I can to make it right.

Man I love this board.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I hate when my imperfect human side shows - especially so publicly. While the whereabouts of the listed card is still unknown, based on the fact that I did purchase the card in question in 2010 (Thanks again Pat), I'm going to presume this is my mistake and do what I can to make it right.

Man I love this board.

We all make mistakes Howard good luck getting the situation straightened
out.

Just to make sure I didn't make a mistake I went back and double checked
to make sure it was the card you purchased and it was.

Here's the VCP listing with the scan of the card with that cert #.

1969 O-Pee-Chee Roberto Clemente PSA 7
eBay: 4/9/10 | Seller: theboymonk | Buyer: favorite_things | BIN

[pokerplyr80]

I would contact Ebay and plead your case, let them know you are being scammed. I've never dealt with this situation personally on either end, but have a feeling they may side with the buyer. But presenting your side before he files a claim may help.

[tribefan]

What is the eBay id, and his name? He may be a known scammer. Is there anything in his feedback that appears to be a false positive?

[swarmee]

I'm trying to figure out how this makes sense from the buyer's perspective. It's not like a different PSA 7 could have been swapped out in the mail.
Option 1: If the buyer had Cert #144... beforehand and he wanted to "trade" it for your card, he'd be asking for a refund, not for you to send the card you actually were selling. Maybe this is a mid-game gambit that he'll negotiate back to you to return his #144 for a full refund.
Option 2: You made the mistake and accidentally sent him the wrong card. You have a collection of this specific card and you own multiples of them. Maybe you just forgot this one, and you mailed it accidentally. However, if this was the case, #179 is still in your possession somewhere.

Option 2 makes the most sense to me, just based on game theory and intuition.