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Old 10-04-2014, 10:16 PM
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Default Question about gradinga Diamond Stars Greenberg

I got a raw 1936 Diamond Stars Hank Greenberg from a family friend who was the original owner. The card will probably grade out at around 6, maybe 7. My question is, which grading company would you choose? I like the SGC flips, but I have heard that they changed the design, so I am not sure which route to go. Any help would be appreciated.
Sidenote: I have been a collector for 35 years and this will be my first submission for a grading. Thanks again.

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PSA brings the most money. Period.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:27 PM
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PSA brings the most money. Period.
Truth. But are you looking to sell? Everyone has their preferences, I prefer SGC for my collection because if their quality and consistency.
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I plan on keeping it.
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I plan on keeping it.
I would go with sgc if keeping then
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PSA brings the most money. Period.
I have found SGC to be competent in pricing. I have received offers on my SGC 96 OPC Gretzky as high as the PSA counterpart and refused.
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Here is a picture of a PSA 6 that is up on ebay. And, here is a picture of a SGC 60 that is up on ebay (albeit with the error spelling). Which do you like better? (Sorry about the size difference.) I didn't take either picture, so I can't tell you about how they were scanned/shot or why the colors look so different. The SGC 50 is mine, and I like the way it looks framed in the black. I put both SGC cards up because the ebay one (the 60) has the newer flip.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:30 PM
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Thanks for the input, guys. I think I will go with SGC. I will post the grade I get on the card. I also have a Sport Kings Gene Tunney in similar condition that I will send with the Greenberg. Thanks again.
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If you plan on keeping them, then SGC is cool. If you EVER plan on selling it though, no offense, but SGC just does not get the bids that PSA does.
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If you plan on keeping them, then SGC is cool. If you EVER plan on selling it though, no offense, but SGC just does not get the bids that PSA does.
I often hear this, and it is true when comparing cards in the same grade in the Post War space-- but the key issue is what grade the card will receive. Politics play a big role in PSA grading, as they seem intent on keeping pops down and prices of cards in their slabs up. Whereas if the card is truly deserving, I've found SGC will be fairer to the card. PSA loves to grade harshly and then get people hooked on review after review after review. It's smart business I guess and generates great revenue on those reviews.

Thus, while it is true that PSA slabs (except in the PreWar space) will often bring more than an SGC card of equal grade, in actuality one would prefer an SGC card in grade X to a PSA card in grade X-1. So if the card is very nice and SGC will make it a 7, I would take an SGC 7 over a PSA 6 all day every day, and in the PreWar space-- where the price gap is narrow or non-existent on many cards-- it's more of a no-brainer.

So equal grade comparison is one thing, but I'd take SGC in a grade higher for value and resale. Not to mention the SGC slab looks much better, at least to my taste. I've even been feeling like crossing my whole collection to SGC lately for that very reason. It's such a nice presentation.

I would also take this SGC 4 or the SGC 5 above over the PSA 6-- PSA tends to reward sharp corners at the cost of ugly centering.

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Old 10-05-2014, 09:09 PM
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I took another look at my posting, and the last one by MattyC and note that it looks like SGC is a bit confused as to which is the error - Greenberg or Greenburg.
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Old 10-05-2014, 09:13 PM
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That's funny; yeah the 60 is mislabeled.
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