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Old 08-18-2017, 10:27 AM
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Default Goodwin...what is going on?

After having the auction preview pushed to today, Friday, August 18th, I just saw this message on their website: Masterpieces and Uncommon Commons LXXII will preview Monday, August 21, 2017 and open for bidding Tuesday, August 22, 2017. The auction closes on Thursday, September 7, 2017.

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Old 08-18-2017, 10:37 AM
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They're adjusting for the eclipse.
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it seems like the the last year or so, a few of the smaller boutique auction houses are unclear about when their next auction is, or a previously announced date gets pushed back. lack of consignments maybe?
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Just spoke to Bill. Auction preview will be available for viewing next week.
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Maybe he has another Koufax PSA 8 and is debating whether to still call it a $200K card.

"For the discerning collector or the profit-driven investor, this card should be an automatic. The Koufax rookie card’s climb has been as remarkable as Koufax pitching at Dodger Stadium on a hot summer day. We expect the day to come very soon, when Koufax rookies at PSA 8 will be selling well in excess of $200,000 and perhaps as $250,000. If you’ve ever contemplated a Clemente rookie, we strongly encourage you investigate this card."
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Maybe they took in some late additions which were very nice, and they are making last minute changes.
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I think the last Goodwin auction was pushed back several times too. Weird
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Maybe he has another Koufax PSA 8 and is debating whether to still call it a $200K card.

"For the discerning collector or the profit-driven investor, this card should be an automatic. The Koufax rookie card’s climb has been as remarkable as Koufax pitching at Dodger Stadium on a hot summer day. We expect the day to come very soon, when Koufax rookies at PSA 8 will be selling well in excess of $200,000 and perhaps as $250,000. If you’ve ever contemplated a Clemente rookie, we strongly encourage you investigate this card."
Peter, this wasn't edited? This was a direct quote? This literally can't be accurate. There is no fiber in my being that recognizes this as a rational statement. I'm not laughing out loud, but I'm laughing internally at the absurdity of this quote.
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Maybe he has another Koufax PSA 8 and is debating whether to still call it a $200K card.

"For the discerning collector or the profit-driven investor, this card should be an automatic. The Koufax rookie card’s climb has been as remarkable as Koufax pitching at Dodger Stadium on a hot summer day. We expect the day to come very soon, when Koufax rookies at PSA 8 will be selling well in excess of $200,000 and perhaps as $250,000. If you’ve ever contemplated a Clemente rookie, we strongly encourage you investigate this card."
I feel a little frustrated at comments like this. The world is all in favor of the rich guy. Since I can't afford these high dollar cards, I don't read these fabulous portfolio suggestions. The little guy never gets a chance.
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Peter, this wasn't edited? This was a direct quote? This literally can't be accurate. There is no fiber in my being that recognizes this as a rational statement. I'm not laughing out loud, but I'm laughing internally at the absurdity of this quote.
Right off the auction. Mid 2016 peak of manipulation mAnia.
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I feel a little frustrated at comments like this. The world is all in favor of the rich guy. Since I can't afford these high dollar cards, I don't read these fabulous portfolio suggestions. The little guy never gets a chance.
My sentiments exactly !!
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After having the auction preview pushed to today, Friday, August 18th, I just saw this message on their website: Masterpieces and Uncommon Commons LXXII will preview Monday, August 21, 2017 and open for bidding Tuesday, August 22, 2017. The auction closes on Thursday, September 7, 2017.

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They've moved the auction back again. Now it will begin on Wednesday, August 23. This is the third different date that they've given.
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They've moved the auction back again. Now it will begin on Wednesday, August 23. This is the third different date that they've given.
I would be pretty peeved if I had consignments with them. Hopefully, cosigners are getting a different message than what is on the website.
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we strongly encourage you investigate this card."

Maybe the should have rephrased that?
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Have Koufax's really gotten that inflated? I have a PSA 6 I paid $250 for over a decade ago. Am I sitting on money?

Update: it appears that I am.

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If you put it in the $500 thread it would double your money pretty quickly.
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I guess Bill Goodwin doesn't believe in previews because there is still nothing up and the auction supposedly starts tomorrow ????
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The home page lists the auction highlights. Some nice cards!
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The home page lists the auction highlights. Some nice cards!
Aren't those from the last auction?
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I don't understand the obsession with when Goodwin starts his auction.
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It's not an obsession, but it is more than mildly irritating when, for the second straight auction at least, Goodwin has given start dates, waited fairly close to their beginning, and then bumped them back multiple times for no good stated reason. Makes the auction look amateurish--they really should get their poop in a group.
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It's not an obsession, but it is more than mildly irritating when, for the second straight auction at least, Goodwin has given start dates, waited fairly close to their beginning, and then bumped them back multiple times for no good stated reason. Makes the auction look amateurish--they really should get their poop in a group.
So wait, what's the biggie?
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So why the hell give a starting date? Let it happens when it happens.
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So why the hell give a starting date? Let it happens when it happens.
Were you planning your social life around opening night?
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Actually, I'm hoping to not be in jail. About to go downtown Phoenix. Like. Now.
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Actually, I'm hoping to not be in jail. About to go downtown Phoenix. Like. Now.
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Aren't those from the last auction?
Nope, the current one.
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Are you sure? They are now pulled from his site. The only thing on there now is his last auction.
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Goodwin always has a dozen cards worthy of any collection. The highlights for his next auction are on the home page. Sick!
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Were you planning your social life around opening night?
Well Mister Smarty-Pants, it just so happens that my lady friend and I first met on 8/16, and I was going to pop the question to her on that day in code by making sure the lot number corresponding to the date I've reserved the wedding chapel for received the very first bid.

She's very perceptive.

Now I've cancelled the reservation. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
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Goodwin always has a dozen cards worthy of any collection. The highlights for his next auction are on the home page. Sick!
I rarely bid in his auctions anymore..I don't care for the management of the parent company either..
I prefer to support our advertisers and there is plenty to keep me busy.
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Based on the number of calls I get about Ken Goldin I would say Goodwin is the safer bet.
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Based on the number of calls I get about Ken Goldin I would say Goodwin is the safer bet.
What was the question, I think I missed it?
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I rarely bid in his auctions anymore..I don't care for the management of the parent company either..
I prefer to support our advertisers and there is plenty to keep me busy.
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The last time I won a lot from them, 1 of the better cards was not included in the shipment. I notified them immediately of such. A few days later they said it would be sent out right away and nothing ever showed up. After several weeks of waiting, we agreed on a partial refund. Multiple times I was told the check would be sent but it never was. It took almost 2 months after the auction ended and I made payment for everything to be settled.

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Well Mister Smarty-Pants, it just so happens that my lady friend and I first met on 8/16, and I was going to pop the question to her on that day in code by making sure the lot number corresponding to the date I've reserved the wedding chapel for received the very first bid.

She's very perceptive.

Now I've cancelled the reservation. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

If my wife (also very perceptive) sees your post, she will learn of my mistresses and my life will be ruined.

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Well Mister Smarty-Pants, it just so happens that my lady friend and I first met on 8/16, and I was going to pop the question to her on that day in code by making sure the lot number corresponding to the date I've reserved the wedding chapel for received the very first bid.

She's very perceptive.

Now I've cancelled the reservation. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
Glenn, 8/16 is indeed a special date. My twin sons were born on 8/16/71. And, I got remarried on 8/16/97. On our 20th anniversary last week, #2 wifey and I went to the Wash. Nationals game - she's a keeper!
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My twin sons were also born on 8-16!
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Auction still isn't open I guess.
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Back in October 2005 I called Bill because I was looking to buy a 1952 Topps PSA 3 Mantle for a customer. Bill said he had one that he could sell for $7500. When I received the card and credit card slips he charged me $8500. I called him and he said oh no, I said $8500, but agreed to refund me $500. Since I did the transaction by phone I had no proof. Never bought anything from him again.
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Back in October 2005 I called Bill because I was looking to buy a 1952 Topps PSA 3 Mantle for a customer. Bill said he had one that he could sell for $7500. When I received the card and credit card slips he charged me $8500. I called him and he said oh no, I said $8500, but agreed to refund me $500. Since I did the transaction by phone I had no proof. Never bought anything from him again.
ditto here...I consigned to Goodwin maybe 5 years ago and I had to hound Bill just to get paid. No thanks. There are way too many other AH's who pay in a timely to deal with such BS!
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Are you sure? They are now pulled from his site. The only thing on there now is his last auction.
If you look at the front page (desktop), you see the auction highlights for Proctor's Theater Ruth, Felix Mendelsohn Ruth and Cobb, W600 Wagner, Boston Garter Cobb, etc. These are all new items and not in the previous auction.

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My twin sons were also born on 8-16!
Wait, what about Elvis? And the Beatles at Shea Stadium.
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Old 08-23-2017, 01:06 PM
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The reason for the delay is obvious.

Goldin is announcing they are auctioning Goodwin's next entire auction.
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:51 PM
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The reason for the delay is obvious.

Goldin is announcing they are auctioning Goodwin's next entire auction.
I hope people realize a lot higher prices with Goldin than me! I attained substantially higher prices with Bill Goodwin and REA, but lost my butt with Goldin (twice)...

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Old 08-23-2017, 05:35 PM
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Based on the number of calls I get about Ken Goldin I would say Goodwin is the safer bet.
I will quickly say amen to that, and I'm not Bill Goodwin.
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