Does anyone know of a complete T213-1 Set? Name a Type Set that no one has completed!

[DixieBaseball]

I have been trying to ascertain if anyone in the known universe has completed a Type 1 T213 Set of Coupons for some years. I don't specifically know of anyone that has completed the 68 card set ( I got to around 55ish and petered out... ). I have conversed with a board member over the years that claims there is 1 person out west that owns one, but he has not verified it yet. It got me to thinking... Could there be one, maybe more complete Type 1 Coupon sets buried in ole timer's collections? It's hard for me to believe, as the years click by with only a scant few examples ever making their way to market. I don't believe there are any T213-1 sets complete. I don't know of anyone even working on it either... Too rare to collect?

What other Type Sets have not been completed? I know folks are working on various T,E,W type sets and was just wondering if there are more of these incomplete sets out there.

[Leon]

E221

[ullmandds]

t214,t215,t216?

[rhettyeakley]

E121 Series of 80 (new cards/variations are still being found)

E254 Colgan's Chips

E270 Colgan's Red Borders

E270 Colgan's Tin Tops

1912 Zeenuts (even the most advanced collectors are still missing 5-10 cards)

1915 Zeenuts

1917 Zeenuts (some unique cards)

[atx840]

T215 Pirates, a close 96/97 was put together and sold in Legendary.

[ctownboy]

1928 Star Player Candy. One person supposedly has around 70 of the 73 cards checklisted BUT 73 seems to be an odd number of cards for a set.

The theories are that 1) the 1928 football cards were printed on the same sheets and thus 73 baseball cards are a complete set or 2) there are still some cards from the set that haen't been found yet.

Also, it is doubted that the 1923 Curtis Ireland Candy cards have a known complete set.

I might be wrong about both sets but considering how few cards come up for sale it is likely there are no complete sets out there....

David

[familytoad]

E210-2
York Caramels Type 2 , I hadn't heard of anyone finding all 60, although there have been several come close

I'm still looking for 7 more cards, I know they are out there, but elusive and not terribly popular due to the similarity to Type 1

[philliesphan]

E104-iii

[Vintagecatcher]

Not sure if anyone has ever finished this set either. I remember reading an article on the set, and they had all but one image of the baseball players. There are also boxing cards and animals that were issued as well. Not sure if they would be included as well or not.

Patrick

[Danny Smith]

E105 mello mints

[tedzan]

Here are 6 of my cards. I have only 14 of the 68 cards in this 1910 COUPON set.

There is a Net54 member who is very close to completing this set. It's been a year since he and I traded T213-1 cards, so perhaps his set is complete by now.



Shown here are the T206 Six Super-Prints which are seldom seen with this 1910 COUPON advertisement.

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[Epps]

D303 Mothers Bread and Tango Eggs. REA had the near complete set of Tango's, but I believe it was incomplete

[yanksfan09]

D381 Fleischmann/ Ferguson.... as far as I know. I'm 6 away from having one of each known player pictured in the set. There's one other collector a bit closer. Maybe a long shot for either of us to ever finish it.....

[buymycards]

Both sets of Weil Baking and both years of Holsum Bread.

[DixieBaseball]

It's really amazing that collector's have been collecting these types sets for about 75+ years now and several of those are not complete by now. (I know of one Gent who is collecting dozens of these sets, but isn't finished on any of them and has been at it for 30+ years) There are a lot of sets in this thread and I am sure many more not mentioned. Also, pretty neat that there are a handful that are oh so close.

Has anyone finished a T209 set?

[smtjoy]

M101-4/5 (I know of a few complete Blank Back and Sporting News, one Famous & Barr, but im not sure any of the other backs have been completed, a near set missing 4 cards of Herpolsheimer's was broken up last year)

M101-6 while I think possible I have never heard of one esp with variations

[AndrewJerome]

There likely are a handful of Zeenut sets that haven't been completed. Two that come to mind are 1926 and 1933-36.

Andrew

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by smtjoy

M101-4/5 (I know of a few complete Blank Back and Sporting News, one Famous & Barr, but im not sure any of the other backs have been completed, a near set missing 4 cards of Herpolsheimer's was broken up last year)

M101-6 while I think possible I have never heard of one esp with variations

Not sure the M101-6 is possible, although I guess a lot of that depends on which checklist you use. One card that is on both checklists (Stengel) I am pretty sure is unconfirmed.

[SMPEP]

1923 W572s.

Doubtful anyone will ever complete a "complete" set since there are 2 cards in the Standard Catalogue checklist that no one has even said they own or even seen ... and another 9 for which no known photos exist (although these probably exist).

[t213]

I know of one complete 1933-36 Zeenut set, but I believe it took him many years to assemble.

Andy

[Wite3]

N-172 Old Judge

[tbob]

E94 master set of all colors (not yet at least). That said, no one will likely ever complete a "true" master set with an orange color variation of each player (to go along with red, blue, olive, green, violet and gold) because only one orange variation exists for each player and half of the players do not have a reported orange variation card at all. I have six and I have seen or heard of only a handful of others- including the Cobb (net54er), Crawford (leon), etc.

I also don't think a true master set of 1911 Zeenuts exist because of all the many variations plus you have to be lucky enough to have a Bohen. I don't think even Mark Macrae has them all because of all the rare variations which pop up, although I'm sure no one is closer than Mark.

[Michael Peich]

Jer@Me--

I don't know of anyone who has completed a 224 card T209-2 set. There are some awfully scarce cards at the end of that set's rainbow.

I need the following 11 to complete my set:

Armstrong (Wilson)
Cowells (Wilson)
Hartley (Anderson
Hyames (Wilmington)
Irving (Goldsboro)
Mundell (Raleigh)
Reeves (Rocky Mount)
Rickert (Danville)
Sherrill (Raleigh)
Steinbach (Goldsboro)
Wright (Raleigh)

Cheers,
Mike

[DixieBaseball]

Mike,

11 cards shy is just fantastic. May, I ask how long it has taken you to assemble this near masterpiece? Also, what was the largest block of cards you have been able to purchase in one shot?

As a side note, for years I didn't see too many of the t209-2's floating around and here lately I have seen quite a few come to market. Cycle, I guess.

One final question. Do you know of any board members who also collect this set and have one of those 11 you need? You are way too close, my friend.

Hope all is well and thanks for sharing that info -

JeRamie

[Michael Peich]

Jeremy,

Thanks for the kind words. I don't know of anyone who has one of the eleven I need, but maybe there are a few out there in cyberspace.

It has taken me six years to put this set together. I was "stuck" at @170 cards until I acquired a near set this summer. In the acquisition there were multiple cards that had eluded me, as well as many upgrades. Because these cards are so scarce, whenever one you need comes to market, you acquire it no matter the condition, so it was nice to upgrade a number of cards. It was a once-in-a-lifetime deal, and I jumped on it. The wife still thinks I'm crazy!

You can visit my website, http://t209-contentnea.com, and see lots of the cards and learn more about them. Given your interest in southern league players, it's a natural read for you.

All best,
Mike

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by t213

I know of one complete 1933-36 Zeenut set, but I believe it took him many years to assemble.

Andy

This has always seemed somewhat bizarre to me. Between a dozen or two folks that have been Zeenut aficionados for decades, I'd imagine that by now, a fairly discrete checklist for each of the four years ought to be available. Certainly there are some crazy rare cards from the run in aggregate, but I believe that many of the cards are known to exist in coupon version, which should allow for a proper dating of each of the four years.

m

[clydepepper]

1904 Allegheny Card Co.

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

1904 Allegheny Card Co.

Not sure that's true? I thought the set, when originally discovered, was discovered as a complete set. It was subsequently broken up, and is likely never to be put back together. But since it was discovered as a complete set, it is technically a type set that was, at one time, complete.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

Not sure that's true? I thought the set, when originally discovered, was discovered as a complete set. It was subsequently broken up, and is likely never to be put back together. But since it was discovered as a complete set, it is technically a type set that was, at one time, complete.

Yes, it was originally sold as a complete set.

[edjs]

From what I understand, the 1913 Oakland Oaks team set has not been completed. If I am wrong, I would love to see the scans of them, please? I love this set.

[sycks22]

Might sound dumb, but I'd say T206 with all the back combinations. Many have completed the 524, but don't know if anyone has sound all the backs of each player as well. I could be wrong.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Might sound dumb, but I'd say T206 with all the back combinations. Many have completed the 524, but don't know if anyone has sound all the backs of each player as well. I could be wrong.

apparently this is what david hall is attempting. safe to say this has never been done...and likely never will.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Yes, it was originally sold as a complete set.

True. But, it will never be re-sold as a complete set if for no other reason than my personal asking price for the three I've been lucky enough to obtain.

[DixieBaseball]

So... there are No T213-1 Type 1 Coupon 68 card sets in the known universe? Not surprising, but it's interesting to me how many type sets have not been completed. It would seem over the last 10 decades some of the set collectors/ole time collectors would have completed some of these type sets. Perhaps, there are few rocks that haven't been turned over yet. I will hold out hope someone in the known universe owns a complete Coupon Type 1 set.

[boneheadandrube]

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/lot-57402.aspx

[ullmandds]

wowsers...went pretty cheap too!

[sb1]

Purchased by a collector that still has it. I guess I could have divulged this at the start, but didn't want to spoil the drama.

[DixieBaseball]

Scot,
Thanks for confirming and thank you Greg for digging up that 8 year old auction info! I love the description :
The brand name "Coupon" and term "complete set" in the same sentence is almost unheard of in the hobby. This presentation may very well be the only complete set assembled and then made available for public auction. It is almost impossible to accurately express what a rare opportunity it is to acquire the complete "Type 1" Coupon series in one single acquisition.

I swear I have seen that Matty somewhere before... as a single card.

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

wowsers...went pretty cheap too!

Pete - I concur. That set sells for North of $30K today. That would be a very nice 8 year return.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

apparently this is what david hall is attempting. safe to say this has never been done...and likely never will.

Man he would need multiple Wagners and Planks-yikes!

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by sb1

Purchased by a collector that still has it. I guess I could have divulged this at the start, but didn't want to spoil the drama.

I believe this set may not be in tact anymore but can't be 100 percent sure. Either way, it's neat someone was able to put it together, but I am leaning right now to this set being broken up and there are No T213-1 sets in existence.

Perhaps its time to start up this project again!

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

Not sure if anyone has ever finished this set either. I remember reading an article on the set, and they had all but one image of the baseball players. There are also boxing cards and animals that were issued as well. Not sure if they would be included as well or not.

Patrick

The boxing collectors don't even know how many were issued. A new pose Jeffries surfaced this year.

The Exhibit PC backed master set is like T206. Between multiple backs and about a dozen front colors it is an accomplishment just to complete a player run.

[Webster]

Without the elusive 20th card (does it exist?) this group is still one short - but I believe the first time that 19 have been brought together. Special thanks to Brian and Pete for assisting with the assembly.

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