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05-19-2012, 06:48 AM
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T206 upside down back scarcity/ let's get a count
Hello all......
As you know i love the T206 freaks....i have been collecting them since 1998 give or take.....I have been discussing this with other hard core t206 collectors and would like to test the waters.... I have personally only seen about 15 or more examples roughly....I own 4 myself....a piedy 350, piedy 150, om scrap uppie and a sweet cap uppie...which took years to acquire and thanx to fellow board members like Mike Healer, Mac Wubben, Mike Brailey ect  ...they are in my opinion super toughies....a few examples off the top of my head: My friend owns 4 nice ones that make a mini sheet(maybe he will post  )Jamie's Cy young... I know who owns the 2 other om uppies that came off the same sheet as my Thebo scrap (great pick ups ) Steve and Jamie...wise purchases.....Chris Brown's sweet 4 back om scrap is another(hind sight that i should've jumped on that one, but glad my friend Chris got it ... is another...Wonk's sweet pick up recently...Jimmy's Hot Batch that is one of the nicest examples i have seen There are a few others...the Levy's have one or 2 I beleive or have owned in the past....and i'm sure Dan prob has ten or moreLOL only kidding..SO....scrap or factory cut, doesnt matter.... SHOW US YOUR UPPIES  Let us know/post a scan if you own one~!! If not, tell us about you sightings....i'm wondering how many actually exist, and i wouldn't say more than 100??????? examples are prob out there??... I would guesstimate that if you multplied by ten for the ones tucked away in old timers or guys who just don't read this board..... example 15 spotted..... 10 times 15= 150 total examples that probaby exist??? but i'm more inclined to think prob not more than 50 exist Tell us what u think Peace Johnny 
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05-19-2012, 06:55 AM
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Anything for you Johnny! These are the only ones I have. Added the fronts in case you want to keep track of the players too
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05-19-2012, 08:18 AM
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Nice thread Johnny but I don't see yours! There is a very sweet Dubuc SC out there. What about printing test scraps, Leon's and the recent REA McGraw?
Since most of these are also miscut by a similar amount the top border of the sheet must have been different then the bottom. Thanks to Jim R & Johnny for calling me on this example. 
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05-19-2012, 08:36 AM
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Batch.jpg
Batchb.jpg I think I have seen a few more than 15 over the years but I still think these are Broad Leaf 460 rare.
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05-19-2012, 09:31 AM
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uppies
Great input guys!!
Thanks Johnny for the mini sheet tease Chris, your right!!forgot about those Glad u got that sweet card, you deserve it...Jim...Your Batch is the one of the nicest examples i have seen Wow, a blazer! Don't ever let that go...i think that is at least a 10kerI have been leaning towards what you have always said, these uppies even including scrap are bl 460 tuf or even tufer!!! ...Thank God i got mine when they were still affordable Excuse the scans 
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05-19-2012, 09:39 AM
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uppies
too bad Thebo wasn't brown
 but i can't get greedyMagee is INSANE Thanks Mike HEALER off the bottom/top of the sheet depends how you look at it....tomato tomato...I havent seen any uppies like magee... Any venture a guess how many of these exist???? I think Jimmy's theory is the best I can surmise....
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05-19-2012, 10:35 AM
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Thanks Jim B, definitely one of my top 5 cards.
One of my favourites out there, anyone know who currently owns it?  Johnny I think this one is yours.  Another one owned by a board member. 
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05-19-2012, 08:45 PM
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Johnny
I have scans of a few. I'll hold off to let the owners post them up. If they don't in a day or two, I'll post the 4 scans that I have saved. Bender (portrait) PD 150 King OM (black) Dubuc SC 350 Engle PD 350 Jantz Last edited by Jantz; 05-19-2012 at 09:03 PM. Reason: added more
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05-20-2012, 05:16 AM
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brother card to thebo
Steve!!
Thanx!!was waiting for you, now we need Jamie's .....beauty of a scrap, u got at a bargain, trust me u could sell that at 5x-10x ur price, noone really realizes the rarity on these yet.........it will be sgc "A" upside down back like mine, definitely get slabbed by them, really the cherry on top...... Come on, let's see some more
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05-20-2012, 03:03 PM
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Amazing cards !!!!
Johnny- Great thread & awesome cards everyone !!! I don't have one to add but love looking at these rarities !!!!!
Sincerely, Clayton
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05-22-2012, 08:47 PM
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Sorry Johnny, but all my T206 backs are UP-standing in my community.
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05-22-2012, 09:22 PM
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Dubuc
Johnny,
Here you go....sorry for the delay in posting it. Another one that I know of, but haven't seen for many years, is a Kisinger Sweet Caporal. From what I can remember, the back looked very similar to this Dubuc (pretty well centered, two backs showing). Steve
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05-22-2012, 10:47 PM
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Both owned by a board member.
  Steve, here is the Kinsinger 
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05-22-2012, 11:37 PM
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Hey Guys.. been away for what feels like 2 weeks... my 2 upsidedowns are already posted in the thread... I love these cards...
in all my searches for my good friend Mr. Seymour I came across this... (if the owner sees this and feels like selling for top dollar shoot me an email)  
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05-23-2012, 05:07 AM
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t206 uppies.....
Thanks guys!!
Great to hear from all of you and thanks for the scans...... Excellent work..... Looks like about 20 so far accounted for, they are all the ones i have seen through out the years..... I was guesstimated i have seen about 2 dozen ......over the years.... Maybe there are only 50-100 that exist????????????????  This is great work.....as Jim said, these are bl 460 tough, or tougher!!!  Keep 'em coming if we can find some more..... Does anyone have any opinions of how many might exist?????? I thought we might see some examples that haven't been seen..... If u have an uppy, PLEASE POST A SCAN and if u own one, you are a lucky bastard
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12-22-2014, 02:09 PM
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I realize that its been several years and no doubt more T206 "Upside Down" backs have been found. I just wanted to throw mine into the count. I have a Stoney McGlynn Cycle Upside Down back that is on its way back from SGC. It graded a 20. I'd be happy to post an image of it when I get it back if anyone is interested. Not that I'd sell it, but I haven't seen any other Cycle "Uppies" before. Are there others???
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12-22-2014, 02:21 PM
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Would love to see a scan.
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12-22-2014, 03:04 PM
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Heres my Bridwell.
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12-22-2014, 06:51 PM
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Sweet, I am glad these problems exist in the pre-war era too!
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12-23-2014, 02:58 PM
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Leifield upside down back
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12-24-2014, 03:49 PM
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Nice cards. I think I have one in my collection. I would have bought it in the early 1980's as a common card back then. I will look tonight after church service and post a scan.
Robert
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12-24-2014, 06:18 PM
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OK Here is what I have. Like I said previously, I bought this as a common in the early 1980's. I probably paid $1.00 or $2.00 for it.
Is it enough to put my daughter through college or would it just buy her first text book???????? Robert  
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12-24-2014, 06:25 PM
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12-25-2014, 08:01 AM
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Holy Yikes! I had no idea it would be worth that much. Wow Merry Christmas to me........and Happy Holidays to everyone.
To those who pm'd me, I will answer all sometime today. I did not post this with the intention on selling but just to show a new card that everyone may not have seen before. However, I may to check my options now...... Thanks, Robert
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12-25-2014, 11:18 AM
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Don't take the first offer, Robert. My experience is that these are the ones trying to steal it. Since you didn't know that it was worth much, I'd suggest you auction it and let the market decide. You'll be pleased you did and I would be very surprised if it didn't surpass all of the offers you've gotten.
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12-25-2014, 11:34 AM
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12-25-2014, 11:55 AM
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12-25-2014, 02:10 PM
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Robert....
Plus +1 to what everyone is saying!!
your card is very desirable because of some "fat ass" border......color shift/ missing ink on front......3 back upside down tolstoi......I want my scrap to be "beaten" up a little....gives them character.........your card is basically a scrap hunters dream.... congrats! my estimate would be between 3k-4k....
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12-25-2014, 02:30 PM
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Counting.....
17 factory cut upside downs(I own a bridwell) and counting steve c.'s that he saw
count so far 7 scrap upside down.... 24 total so far! lets get a count.... btw.....steve c thanks for posting Last edited by mrvster; 12-25-2014 at 02:30 PM.
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12-26-2014, 07:35 AM
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Johnny,
Chris posted a scan of the Kisinger Sweet Caporal I remember seeing (see post #9). It's definitely the same one. Just don't want you to double-count it. Love the upside down Tolstoi! Cool card. Steve
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