Scam / Future scam

[botport]

Found this card last night on LETGO. I know not the best place to find vintage but you never know.

Seller asking $300. Cert # checks out with PSA. After reading fine print says item is a reprint. I contact seller and he says it is a reprint in a real PSA holder with reprint flip. No returns accepted. He is also trying to sell a 53T Mantle fake in the same manner.

I feel bad for the true owner of the original PSA 3.

Also with the $300 asking price and verified Cert # from a true PSA 3 this seems to me a fairly clear attempt to fool someone into believing the card is real.

Is this practice widespread? Does anyone see obvious signs that the holder was tampered with or pieced together?

[toledo_mudhen]

I contact seller and he says it is a reprint in a real PSA holder with reprint flip

So you are saying that he reprinted the flip itself???

and he is selling as authentic??

what caused you to question the guy??

wow

[botport]

The fine print in the description mentioned it as a reprint. Since the cert # was from a verified PSA 3 I asked him if that was a typo or really a reprint. That's why I questioned him.

I don't know if he made the flip himself or not.

[bobbyw8469]

The slab is frosted all to hell. Easy to see it's a compromised holder. Someone is gonna see $$$ though and get burned.

[joshuanip]

It could be that the person who is trying to sell that card popped it and kept the real card for himself. Especially if he is selling a similar mantle.

Even though he is saying its a reprint inside, to sell a pig with lipstick is still fraudulent misrepresentation.

For this card, looks like he bought it a couple months ago, let it cool and now trying to flip the flip. That is horrible... Problem is who enforces this, given he is disclaiming the product in the print. That said, he is using PSA's IP to scam people, and perhaps they will care enough to stop this like a weed...

[swarmee]

You could also check the bar code to see if it matched the cert. The top edge of the PSA holder has been damaged in that picture. You can see the cracking in the plastic.

[Rhotchkiss]

For the benefit of those without a similar eye- can those of you who rrecognize issues with the flip (damage, frosting, etc), take a pic and circle/point out where you are seeing these things.

I understand frosting, but sometimes I just don’t see it in pics and other times I think edges look frosted when they are not- real tough tell by pics

[murphy8276]

He is on ebay now also.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Topps-...UAAOSw-b9aoAoL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-Topps-...wAAOSwqURaob4v

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

For the benefit of those without a similar eye- can those of you who rrecognize issues with the flip (damage, frosting, etc), take a pic and circle/point out where you are seeing these things.

I understand frosting, but sometimes I just don’t see it in pics and other times I think edges look frosted when they are not- real tough tell by pics

I'm not good at doing what you are describing (I'm old school), but I will do my best to point it out....look above the little pirate logo (the actual pirate...not Clemente)...you see how really milky it is? It's not supposed to be like that.....

Look at the top left corner as opposed to the top right.....see the difference? (the corners where the label is - as if you were holding the card vertically)

[bnorth]

Actually amazing that it does say reprint at all in the listing. This has been going on since grading started. Just crack the slab and replace the card. Was super easy with the old PSA slabs.