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Old 02-14-2013, 02:37 PM
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We all have cards that we think are grossly undergraded....show yours....

no creases....good color (though doesn't show good in scan....)...what gives????


That bottom right corner is not a crease.....ink smudge or something.....????.....I bought it raw and thats first thing I examined because I thought it was a crease.....its probably gonna get freed from that plastic tomb
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:42 PM
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daryle--corner crease bottom right? and it's an old flip (could be derek grady) so if you think it's undergraded crack it out resubmit you'll probably do better this time.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:49 PM
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daryle--corner crease bottom right? and it's an old flip (could be derek grady) so if you think it's undergraded crack it out resubmit you'll probably do better this time.


Nope..thats not a crease. It does appear to be but I bought the card raw and examined that corner very well. Got it slabbed at 2007 National. Thinking about resubmitting it
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:57 PM
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Here's "1" for you. I even sent this card back for a second look and PSA still wouldn't give it a bump.


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Old 02-14-2013, 04:55 PM
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I would be proud to have either of those Gehrigs in my collection. Nice cards guys.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:24 PM
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Only a slight bend, not even really a crease. If it's held just at the right angle and moved you can spot where the reflection off the gloss changes.


70 EX+ 5.5

An EX card that exhibits high-end overall quality and eye appeal.

60 EX 5

80/20 or better centering, minor rounding or fuzzing of corners, roughness or chipping along edge (no layering), one VERY slight surface or "spider" crease may exist on one side of the card, gloss may be lost from surface with some scratching that does not detract from the aesthetics of the card.




A few others, maybe not as nice but it still bugs me whenever I see the typical 50 with slightly rounded corners.


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Old 02-14-2013, 05:29 PM
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34G Gehrig - corner crease and centering. Maybe you could do better, I'm not sure.

33G Gehrig - paper tears - that's a nice "1", I'd be willing to take it for a "1" price.

T206's look nice. I have a few Obaks that really look like 7s or 8s but they got hammered for the card fronts having a little crazing on them. Hard to tell why the T206s were graded so low.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:06 PM
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They aren't really paper tears. There are two vertical creases that run the length of the card, but they're only really visible from the back. They don't really break the surface of the front. It looks like there's a horizontal crease on the front, but it's an illusion. I thought I could at least get bumped up to a 1.5.

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Old 02-14-2013, 06:22 PM
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34G Gehrig - corner crease and centering. Maybe you could do better, I'm not sure.

33G Gehrig - paper tears - that's a nice "1", I'd be willing to take it for a "1" price.

T206's look nice. I have a few Obaks that really look like 7s or 8s but they got hammered for the card fronts having a little crazing on them. Hard to tell why the T206s were graded so low.
The top one has the slight bend.

The other three all have some minor flaw. Konetchy has a tiny flake of surface missing from one corner, Smith has a tiny ding lower left corner, and Conroy has a spot just left of his head with no ink. The blue isn't heavily inked and that spot just didn't completely print.

The first couple groups I sent in were all over the place about half I thought were undergraded, the third got expected to generous grades, the most recent I combined specials with some new stuff and all the grades seemed at least a grade low. The modern stuff did fine except for one that I just can't figure out. 81Donruss Winfield. The nicest 81 D I've seen, centering registration....And it only got an 8.

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Old 02-14-2013, 07:13 PM
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Those are beauties Steve no matter the grade. Here's one that looks better than some graded the same.

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Maybe I don't fully understand how grading works, but I don't get why this is a 1:



Scratches are on the slab.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:36 PM
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Those are beauties Steve no matter the grade. Here's one that looks better than some graded the same.

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Wow. I guess the 50's I got aren't so bad.

Whoever gave that Evers a 35 must have been having a really bad day.


It's kind of funny, I decided to grade a few figuring it would come in handy if my daughters didn't take to collecting. But only the ones that seemed really nice. Now I'm thinking of doing more, maybe some of the VG cards and the tougher backs. But part of me wants to keep the average grade on the T206s above 50....

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I think both of these are undergraded:

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Old 02-14-2013, 10:23 PM
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Certainly some questionable grades here. Mike that evers wow!!
I was surprised at the grade this one received.

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I'm sure everyone has already seen this one ..... but what can I say ... I'm a proud father

Before and after setting him free:
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So many nice low grade T202s out there..
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