Know the No-Prints of the EPDG cards in the 150 Series of the T206 set......

[tedzan]

American Lithographic (ALC) included 143 subjects in their 150/350 Series print runs of T206 cards.
The PIEDMONT brand is printed on all 143 of these cards.

Regarding the EPDG back, 82 subjects are confirmed with EPDG backs in this series. It appears to me
that ALC omitted printing a sheet of approximately 60-cards in this series.
It's my guess that no more EPDG cards remain to be discovered in this series. Therefore, those of you
doing T206 runs on any of the No-Print guys need not search for EPDG. A No-Print list is forthcoming.

Checklist of the 82 confirmed subjects with the EPDG back in the 150/350 series part of the 150 Series.

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Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bender (portrait)
Bergen (bat)
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bresnahan (portrait)
M. Brown (portrait)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Chance (red portrait)
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)
Chesbro
Cicotte
Clarke (portrait)
JJ Clarke
Coveleski
Crandall (no cap)

Criger
Dahlen (Boston)
George Davis (Chicago)
Delehanty (Washington)
Donlin (seated)
Donovan (portrait)
Dooin
Doolin
Durham
Evers (portrait)
Ewing
Ganley
Gibson
Gilbert
Griffith (portrait)
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Jennings (portrait)
Johnson (portrait)

Tom Jones (St Louis)
Jordan (portrait)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Killian (pitching)
Kling
Konetchy (glove high)
Lajoie (throwing)
Leach (portrait)
Lindaman
Lobert
Lumley
Lundgren (Cubs)
Magee (portrait)
Marquard (hands at side)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Mullin (throwing)
O'Leary (portrait)
Overall (portrait)

Owen
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schlei (catching)
Seymour (bat)
Shaw (St Louis)
Shipke
Spade
Spencer
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Stovall (portrait)
L Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (portrait)
Turner
Wagner (bat on left)
Walsh
Weimer
Wilhelm (hands at chest)

CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)

TED Z

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[tedzan]

And, here are the 60 subjects in the 150/350 Series which my research indicates are EPDG NO-PRINTS.

If anyone on this forum can confirm any of these guys with an EPDG back....then please chime in.

If you are the mood, feel free to post your EPDG cards here. This T206 back is one of the prettier backs in the set.


Alpermann
Ames (portrait)
Bell (Hands Above Head)
Birmingham
Bransfield
Bridwell (portrait-no cap)
Fred Clarke (batting)
Cobb (green portrait)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Conroy (fielding)
Crawford (throwing)
Criss
H. Davis (A's)
Devlin
Donohue
Dougherty (portrait)
Elberfeld (portrait-New York)
Ferris
Flick
Goode

Hahn
Isbell
Jacklitsch
Fielder Jones (portrait)
Fielder Jones (hands on hips)
Joss (portrait)
Kleinow (batting-New York)
Lajoie (portrait)
Lake (New York)
Leifield (pitching)
Liebhardt
Manning (batting)
Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait-no cap)
McGraw (finger in air)
McIntire (Brooklyn)
Merkle (portrait)
Murphy (throwing
Nichols (hands on knees)

Niles
Oldring (fielding)
Parent
Pastorius
Powers
Schmidt (throwing)
Schulte (front view)
Sheckard (no glove)
Frank Smith
Stahl (no glove)
Stone
Sullivan
Tenny
Tinker (hands on knees)
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wallace
Doc White (portrait)
Williams
Willis (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-no cap)


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[fkm_bky]

Great stuff as always Ted. Here's my only EPDG.

Bill

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

And, here are the 60 subjects in the 150/350 Series which my research indicates are EPDG NO-PRINTS.

If anyone on this forum can confirm any of these guys with an EPDG back....then please chime in.

If you are the mood, feel free to post your EPDG cards here. This T206 back is one of the prettier backs in the set.


Alpermann
Ames (hands on chest)
Bell (Hands Above Head)
Birmingham
Bransfield
Bridwell (portrait-no cap)
Fred Clarke (batting)
Cobb (green portrait)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Conroy (fielding)
Crawford (throwing)
Criss
H. Davis (A's)
Devlin
Donohue
Dougherty (portrait)
Elberfeld (portrait-New York)
Ferris
Flick
Goode

Hahn
Isbell
Jacklitsch
Fielder Jones (portrait)
Fielder Jones (hands on hips)
Joss (portrait)
Kleinow (batting-New York)
Lajoie (portrait)
Lake (New York)
Leifield (pitching)
Liebhardt
Manning (batting)
Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait-no cap)
McGraw (finger in air)
McIntire (Brooklyn)
Merkle (portrait)
Murphy (throwing
Nichols (hands on knees)

Niles
Oldring (fielding)
Parent
Powers
Schmidt (
Schulte (front view)
Sheckard (
Frank Smith (
Stahl (
Stone
Sullivan
Tenny
Tinker (hands on knees)
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wallace
Doc White (portrait)
Williams
Willis (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-no cap)


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted you're missing Ames portrait from this list of unconfirmed EPDG's and Ames (hands at chest) and Powers are 150 only subjects.

[DeanH3]

One of my favorite backs. Finding centered examples is tough.

[joejo20]

My favorite back! Thanks for the checklist and information Ted.







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[asphaltman]

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Ted you're missing Ames portrait from this list of unconfirmed EPDG's and Ames (hands at chest) and Powers are 150 only subjects.

Pat, thanks for bringing the Ames to my attention. I meant to type Ames (portrait) in the No-Print list.
Yesterday was a long day for me, and my mind was tired by 9:30 last night (when I typed up this list).

Anyway, I have corrected it.


TED Z

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[Thromdog]

[mybuddyinc]

Jeff,

What a collection !!!!! Didn't realize you finally picked up Hummell --- GREAT !!!!


Oh that "final" card -------------- ............. it'll happen ......


Pleasure seeing them all together, Scott


Guess I should show one of mine ...... Not the best condition, but it's "OK" with me .....................

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[HobokenJon]

Note there's no Pastorius in Jeff's EPDG montage. He and I agree Pastorius doesn't come with an EPDG back. Or at least it hasn't been confirmed with an EPDG back, no matter what T206 Resource says. It doesn't appear in the pop reports at either PSA or SGC. If anyone out there has one, please show it.

Same with Hunky Shaw and Ed Willett, in the 350-only series. T206 Resource says they come with EPDG backs, but there hasn't been a confirmed copy of either at PSA or SGC. I consider them unconfirmed, as does every other informed rare-back collector I know. To the best of my knowledge, a complete EPDG set has 281 subjects, which is consistent with the number of cards that Jeff shows above.

Now if I could just find an EPDG Hummel. It's not even all that rare compared with so many of the other EPDG backs. See my latest offer on the B/S/T board, posted today.

[tedzan]

HobokenJon

What a coincidence (or is it a case of ESP)....

Jon, while you were just posting here, I have been typing up your suggestion (that you emailed me last nite)
of including the 150-only Series cards in the NO-PRINT list.

So, here are the subjects in the 150 Series which are EPDG NO-PRINTS.

** indicates 150-only Series subjects

Alpermann
Ames (hands on chest) **
Ames (portrait)
Bell (Hands Above Head)
Birmingham
Bransfield
Bridwell (portrait-no cap)
M. Brown (Cubs) **
G. Browne (Chicago Nat'L) **
Burch (batting) **
Fred Clarke (batting)
Cobb (green portrait)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Conroy (fielding)
Crawford (throwing)
Criss
H. Davis (A's)
Devlin
Donlin (fielding) **
Donohue

Dougherty (portrait)
L. Doyle (throwing) **
Elberfeld (portrait-New York)
Evers (Cubs) **
Ferris
Flick
Goode

Hahn
Isbell
Jacklitsch
Fielder Jones (portrait)
Fielder Jones (hands on hips)
Joss (portrait)
Kleinow (batting-New York)
Lajoie (portrait)
Lake (New York)
Leifield (pitching)
Liebhardt
Manning (batting)

Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait-no cap)
McGraw (finger in air)
McIntire (Brooklyn)
Merkle (portrait)
Murphy (throwing
Nichols (hands on knees)
Niles
Oldring (fielding)
Parent
Pastorius
Pattee **
Pelty (horizontal) **
Plank **
Powers
Reulbach (with glove) **
Schmidt (throwing)
Schulte (front view)
Sheckard (no glove)

Frank Smith
Stahl (no glove)
Stone
Sullivan
Tenny
Tinker (hands on knees)
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Honus Wagner **
Wallace
Doc White (portrait)
Williams
Willis (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-no cap)


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[HobokenJon]

Outstanding work, Ted!

[HobokenJon]

Powers should get two asterisks as a 150-only, too, shouldn't it?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Thromdog

Amazing accomplishment Jeff, do you just need the Young (glove) to finish the subset?

[inceptus]

Great work! This is currently the only EPDG in my Brooklyn collection...

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by HobokenJon

Powers should get two asterisks as a 150-only, too, shouldn't it?

Jon

American Litho introduced the T206's in Spring 1909 with these 12 cards. I don't consider Powers as originally in the 150-only Series.....





Doc Powers would have been printed with 350 series backs (EPDG, OLD MILL, etc.) had he not suffered an untimely death in April 1909. This was a very unfortunate event
for the Philadelphia A's, and especially Eddie Plank. Powers was Plank's preferred Battery mate.



TED Z

T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists
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[HobokenJon]

Re: Powers…..Hmm. That’s a thinker, Ted. Hadn’t heard that theory before, but I’ll take your word for it.

Do you agree that among the subjects with Sovereign 150 backs, there are 82 subjects with EPDG backs and that Pastorius is unconfirmed with an EPDG back?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by HobokenJon

Re: Powers…..Hmm. That’s a thinker, Ted. Hadn’t heard that theory before, but I’ll take your word for it.

Do you agree that among the subjects with Sovereign 150 backs, there are 82 subjects with EPDG backs and that Pastorius is unconfirmed with an EPDG back?

Jon

You have convinced me that Pastorius is an EPDG no-print.

I have included him in my NO-PRINT checklist in Post #12.


TED Z

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[HobokenJon]

Huzzah!!

Thank you, Ted!!!

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Jon

American Litho introduced the T206's in Spring 1909 with these 12 cards. I don't consider Powers as originally in the 150-only Series.....





Doc Powers would have been printed with 350 series backs (EPDG, OLD MILL, etc.) had he not suffered an untimely death in April 1909. This was a very unfortunate event
for the Philadelphia A's, and especially Eddie Plank. Powers was Plank's preferred Battery mate.



TED Z

T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists
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100% disagree that Plank and Wagner were in the initial printing of the T206 cards.

[tedzan]

Hey guys, show us some more of your EPDG cards. I'll continue this show these six......






My 1st EPDG (acquired in 1984)

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TED Z

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[joejo20]

I never get tired of showing these off. A small find of EPDG backs found in an envelope postmarked 1911.






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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by joejo20

I never get tired of showing these off. A small find of EPDG backs found in an envelope postmarked 1911.






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Joe

Your cards are absolutely fabulous. If these cards are from an original collection, can you tell where (city or state) they are from ?

Thanks,


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[ValKehl]

My only two EPDGs:

[joejo20]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Joe

Your cards are absolutely fabulous. If these cards are from an original collection, can you tell where (city or state) they are from ?

Thanks,


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Thanks Ted. The letter was mailed from East Orange, New Jersey and sent to Montclair, New Jersey. It was found with a grouping of other ephemera all with the same family name so I believe it to be from the original owner. The cards look like they have never seen the light of day. Joe