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Old 05-16-2018, 10:10 AM
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Default Prove it exists - 1923 W572 Walt Barbare

So in 2006, Bob Lemke added Walt Barbare to the 1923 W572 checklist in the Stand Catalogue (although PSA never added it to their checklist).

I once asked him about why he added it and he said he could not remember. He said the usual practice was someone sent him a photo or scan and then he added a card - but he did not specifically remember this card.

This is the only card in the 1923 W572 that hasn't been publicly photographed or graded.

If you have it, PLEASE show it and prove it actually exists!

Thank you,
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:52 AM
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Hi Patrick
Lemke was such a great resource for the hobby. His is missed a lot.
He always verified things when I worked with him on some scarce issues but who knows if, early on, he was as tenacious about verification. No doubt there are some errors in our checklists. Good luck!!

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So in 2006, Bob Lemke added Walt Barbare to the 1923 W572 checklist in the Stand Catalogue (although PSA never added it to their checklist).

I once asked him about why he added it and he said he could not remember. He said the usual practice was someone sent him a photo or scan and then he added a card - but he did not specifically remember this card.

This is the only card in the 1923 W572 that hasn't been publicly photographed or graded.

If you have it, PLEASE show it and prove it actually exists!

Thank you,
Patrick
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:10 PM
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What I worry about is - all of the W572 cards (except Ty Cobb) match the 1922 American Caramel E120 set. If someone sent a fax of a trimmed, blank backed/skinned E120 Barbare it would be very easy to mistake that for a W572 without seeing it in hand.

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Old 05-19-2018, 09:22 PM
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What I worry about is - all of the W572 cards (except Ty Cobb) match the 1922 American Caramel E120 set. If someone sent a fax of a trimmed, blank backed/skinned E120 Barbare it would be very easy to mistake that for a W572 without seeing it in hand.

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Patrick, wouldn't it be more likely that someone faxed a b&w W573 of Barbare than an E120?
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Old 05-20-2018, 09:55 AM
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Good point - but I think both could be hard to tell from a fax if trimmed enough.

I'm just bummed it hasn't turned up because of this thread.

I would think a lot of the people who would have faxed Lemke set additions would be on this Board.

This won't be the only set with a questionable addition on the checklist.

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I would think a lot of the people who would have faxed Lemke set additions would be on this Board.
I read a story somewhere (may have even been here in a past thread) about Lemke receiving fax submissions from several collectors that were not very tech savvy. The one story I'm thinking about in particular talked about a guy needing to drive a couple of hours to reach a fax machine and his communications with Bob were via phone only. I think there are more collectors (particularly of older cards) like that than we think. I've routinely talked with people that collect older cards that have never even heard of this site.

There are definitely a lot of people here that helped Bob with his cataloging. But also, I expect, a good many from off of this site.
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