PSA/DNA Goofed.. Scan Added - 1939 Play Ball Frank Hayes

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Posted By: Anonymous

i was lucky enough to win any auction for a 1939 Play Ball #108 Frank Hayes. This card is autographed. it was listed wrong, and the seller stated that the former owner must have wrote his name on teh card.



I sent it to PSA/DNA, and it is indeed authentic.







Frank Hayes was a multiple All Star, and he died in 1955 at the age of 40. what do you think the value of this card would be?







oh yeah, i got it for $0.99

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Despite his early death, Hayes' signature is a fairly easy pickup. A signed Play Ball, however, is a different story. My guess is that it would retail for $250, but sell on eBay for about $150-$175. It should be worth more, but the fact that his signature, as found on low-end items such as cuts and album pages, hinders its value a bit.

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Posted By: sean

I believe I know the playballs your speaking of. does yours look anything like this:

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Posted By: Brian

mine looks like this.. this is before the PSA/DNA slab

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Are you sure it is signed (PSA/DNA aside) as the "Frank" on those two cards is identical. Looks like PSA got one really wrong.
-Rhett

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Posted By: Brian

please tell me more as to why you think it is not signed.

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Unless Frank Hayes also wrote "Frank Demaree" on Demaree's card above it wasn't written by Hayes. The way to tell is simply the "Frank" on each card is identical in the way they were written. I think the seller was right when he said the name was simply written on the front.

Did you really send this to PSA/DNA and they thought it was legit? My assumption with my earlier sttement was that you did. If in fact you did, they got this one wrong.

-Rhett

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Maybe Frank Hayes signed his own card there, then helped out Frank Demaree by signing a card for a fan for him while he was busy... Or maybe Rhett is correct!! "Frank" does look identical.

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Posted By: Anonymous

sorry but they are fake. The seller had about 20 over a 2 month period. Shows that PSA knows as much about authenticating autographs as paris hilton knows about politics
I was hoping you would post a good one and not have to break the bad news to you.

sorry brian

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Posted By: Fred C

Rhett, good pick-up on the sigs.

Frankly, the Frank signatures look the same. GO PSA/DNA!!! By the way, who authenticates for them now?

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Posted By: PC

Sorry Brian. I couldn't resist. For 99 cents, you have to laugh.

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Posted By: Robert Klevens

Brian-
Can you post a scan of the card in the PSA/DNA case?
Thanks.

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Posted By: sean

Heres another one of the "signed" playballs



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330279830878>

and another...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230301682122

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Posted By: sean

and yet another:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230299902145

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Posted By: Sean C

Certainly doesn't look like any Hank Greenberg signature I've ever seen:

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Posted By: leon

I HEAR PSA HAS A NEW AUTOGRAPH AUTHENTICATOR BUT I FORGET WHO IT IS?

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Posted By: Dennis

i think we can all agree that whoever signed them had beautiful penmanship.

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Posted By: Sean C

then whoever authenticated that card needs to go as well.

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Posted By: Brian

ok, not what i wanted to hear.. the card is on its way back to me from PSA.. but the results was PSA/DNA Certified.

here is a picture of a Hayes signature from a Lelands auction.. i see the difference.

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Posted By: Dennis

but the card has been authenticated and slabbed by psa/dna it must be good!!

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Posted By: Anthony N.

LOL Leon- first person I thought of!