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Circa 1910-1915

It was taboo to depict American women smoking in the early part of the 20th Century. So, ATC produced this subliminal
advertisement showing a gal of middle-Eastern appearance and dress with a pack of cigarettes.
Furthermore, the effect of the repeated (diminishing) image was a clever advertising feature which was novel in that era.






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another enjoyable subject and collecting niche....
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The colors on that Turkey Red piece are awesome!
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Default Re: Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces

There's not much in the way of Philadelphia Caramel advertisements.

This ad was featured in the May 1910 issue of the Confectioners Journal.

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DISCLAIMER: NOT MINE (although I wish it was)!

Probably the ultimate in advertising:

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While a neat item I don’t believe those Turkish Trophies items were ever issued with baseball subjects and are later fantasy creations made by dealers or collectors put on non-sports displays. I have never seen one with baseball players that looks right.

In the above example you can clearly see where another leather was removed and a different shaped leather was put in its place, also the T3 replaced Hamilton King girl cabinets and most likely the S81 was added to replace a flag silk. I’ve had a few long discussions with long time hobby dealers and all have agreed or said the same thing…that these are most likely not original period as issued items.

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While a neat item I donít believe those Turkish Trophies items were ever issued with baseball subjects and are later fantasy creations made by dealers or collectors put on non-sports displays. I have never seen one with baseball players that looks right.

In the above example you can clearly see where another leather was removed and a different shaped leather was put in its place, also the T3 replaced Hamilton King girl cabinets and most likely the S81 was added to replace a flag silk. Iíve had a few long discussions with long time hobby dealers and all have agreed or said the same thingÖthat these are most likely not original period as issued items.

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A pair of Ramly Notepads, the one on the left predates the baseball cards.
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:16 PM
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Jon, Here is mine that I bought from a fellow collector.



I really think these baseball ones were either found empty due to time and damage and baseball issues were added in the thought that they may have been issued like that. Or they were found and the Non-Sports items were removed and baseball added in an order to make the item more valuable.

Another interesting note is on all of these that I have seen the cabinet card items (T7-6ís) are not production T7ís they are a thin piece of the T7 art placed on a thicker piece of paper sort a mock version of the later production T7ís.



My guess and this is purely an educated guess is that when these store display pieces were created they had not begun production of the T7-6ís (Bathing & Athletic Girls). All that I have seen that seem to be period feature T7-6 images. These if you follow the redemption coupons were issued around 1913 well after T3ís. So think these store displays were towards the tail end after T3ís etc.

I really think that all you are buying when it comes to these baseball versions are fantasy pieces and one should value them as a destroyed non-sport piece with glued S81, T3 and L1ís attached so the total value should be that nothing more. I also think Legendary did a really crappy job of calling this item out as vintage last I checked they werenít using clear plastic corner mounts in the 1900ís at the very least they didnít even mention that.

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Always liked this photo for the advertising.
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david...that's a cool photo.

question?

does a period photo exist depicting a t206...or other t,d,e,n,m card right after it was pulled from it's original package?
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Good question Peter. I have seen a photo that sold on eBay quite sometime ago. It was of a Bar that sold smokes and there was a person in the picture sweeping up and there were a pile of t-cards baseball etc. in front of the broom. Simply put folks tossed the cards on the floor. Sadly I didn't save an image I think Dan McKee has an image....

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John...that poster is disgusting!!!!!

That photo sounds way cool...would love to see a copy of that!!!
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Thanks John. Your Sea Captains piece just GLOWS!! I really dig that!!
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Tony,
Love the Piedmont wood box with packs and EPDG!

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That Allen and Ginter poster is awful. Get rid of it immediately! PM sent with my mailing address.
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Jerry those are great!

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Scott- that 1909 Ramly photo used to belong to Richard Merkin. Strangely, he had it hanging in his kitchen. I used to see it when I visited.
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Scott- that 1909 Ramly photo used to belong to Richard Merkin. Strangely, he had it hanging in his kitchen. I used to see it when I visited.
Barry,

Very nice to know a bit of provenance on it. Thanks very much. Unfortunately now it does not see the light of day, probably better for it in the long run.

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