If You Collect Scorecards or Programs, Show 'em Here!

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

FWIW, I have nowhere near the collection that Doug Goodman has (who does LOL?)

I may have the quantity, but I'm thinking Scott has the quality.

Here's a a beat up one I like (with a ticket)...

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Here's a a beat up one I like (with a ticket)...

LOL, what was the artist smoking when they drew that cover for the game that ended up being the Koufax perfect game??

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

LOL, what was the artist smoking when they drew that cover for the game that ended up being the Koufax perfect game??

Absolutely!
I must admit, that is by far one of the wildest cover art that I've ever seen on a program!

Doug, that scored program and ticket combo to Sandy's perfecto is quite an artifact. Awesome!

I recall that I found my Koufax 382K scorebook in an antique mall that was within walking distance of my condo in Orange, CA in the early 1990's.
The seller had no idea about the significance of the game and I think I paid under $20 for it. It had my name written all over it!

[Topnotchsy]

This is an incredibly rare program from the Jackie Robinson All-Stars game against the Creoles All-Stars.

The Jackie Robinson All-Stars generally had generic programs which could be used for any game. This is the only game-specific program from the JR All-Stars that I have ever seen (although I imagine others exist).

[jethrod3]

I ran across an old Dodgers program/scorecard & ticket stub combo that I finally had time to look at and research a bit. The date based on the scorecard indicates nothing of significance happened in that game (7/21/74). But I did find something interesting about the program that motivated me to post a couple of pics and share with the group.

Apparently the Dodgers must have accepted baseball-related personal ads to run in some of their programs to generate revenue. Below is one such ad (from the 7/21/74 program) from an early collector of memorabilia the type of which would be of obvious interest to those that have contributed to this thread or a sister thread on tickets/stubs. One can only wonder what responses the person got, and if he/she held on to any of the items that they received from placing the ad!

[ledsters]

3 from the PCL Days and 1 from 1985 Spring Training, signed by Gwynn and Garvey.

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[MVSNYC]

100 years old...

[Scott Garner]

One of my favorite pickups from the National in Chicago is an unusual exhibition scorebook that I had never seen that has some interesting historic significance.

Monday, August 15, 1932 was the Bicentennial Anniversary of Washington DC.
Virtually all MLB baseball teams did not play on this date.

To commemorate the Washington DC Bicentennial, a special Exhibition game was played that pitted members of the 1924 World Champion Washington Nats team that included HOF Walter Johnson and Goose Goslin vs. the current 1932 Washington Team managed by WaJo.

WaJo pitched some of the innings for the 1924 World Champion squad and Marberry pitched the rest. Alas, the upstart 1932 Washington team best the 1924 Champions 6-2 in the game.

Here are some pictures of the scorebook which is remarkable shape considering it's over 90 years old.
I included a closeup of the inside of the scorebook that highlighted the individual significance of WaJo's only win in the World Series in a terrific HOF career.

Enjoy!

[Topnotchsy]

One of my favorite barnstorming programs. Was from a Paige/Feller All-Stars dual in 1945, and this one featured Jackie Robinson not long before he signed his contract with the Dodgers.

In an interview after the game, Feller expressed skepticism that Jackie was a good enough player to play in the Majors. The comment strained their relationship. (Info from Satch, Dizzy and Rapid Robert if my memory is not failing me.)

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

One of my favorite barnstorming programs. Was from a Paige/Feller All-Stars dual in 1945, and this one featured Jackie Robinson not long before he signed his contract with the Dodgers.

In an interview after the game, Feller expressed skepticism that Jackie was a good enough player to play in the Majors. The comment strained their relationship. (Info from Satch, Dizzy and Rapid Robert if my memory is not failing me.)

Sounds like Rapid Robert had a chapped ass after Jackie Robinson lit him up and went 2-4 with two doubles in the game! LOL

[tippedfinger]

I think this one is my favorite -- probably a top five game of all time, some might argue for the top spot. One of the greatest rosters ever assembled (and lest we forget the competition) -- and the background story is incomparable.

Game 7 of the 1937 Ciudad Trujillo tournament.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Sounds like Rapid Robert had a chapped ass after Jackie Robinson lit him up and went 2-4 with two doubles in the game! LOL

Yup!

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

[B]One of my favorite pickups from the National in Chicago is an unusual exhibition scorebook that I had never seen that has some interesting historic significance. Monday, August 15, 1932 was the Bicentennial Anniversary of Washington DC. Virtually all MLB baseball teams did not play on this date. To commemorate the Washington DC Bicentennial, a special Exhibition game was played that pitted members of the 1924 World Champion Washington Nats team that included HOF Walter Johnson and Goose Goslin vs. the current 1932 Washington Team managed by WaJo. WaJo pitched some of the innings for the 1924 World Champion squad and Marberry pitched the rest. Alas, the upstart 1932 Washington team best the 1924 Champions 6-2 in the game. Here are some pictures of the scorebook which is remarkable shape considering it's over 90 years old.
I included a closeup of the inside of the scorebook that highlighted the individual significance of WaJo's only win in the World Series in a terrific HOF career. Enjoy!

Hi Scott, very cool scorecard. I handled a number of these as a collector and dealer, and of course always thought they were great, with the '24 Nationals playing the '32 team in a full game! What that had to do with George Washington I can't tell you, but so cool nonetheless. And historical in the sense that this was the last game Walter ever pitched for Washington, albeit an exhibition.

[jethrod3]

No new scorecard to show at the moment, but definitely something about scorecards to talk about...

I noticed that one company that grades comic books had been grading and slabbing Sports Illustrated mags for some time, much like comic books. But I had never, until very recently, noticed that they are also grading and slabbing scorecards! Perhaps I have been living under a rock for some time! When did any company start doing this?

I have not noticed many examples of graded/slabbed scorecards. Those that I've seen I've just happened to stumble on by chance (one that comes to mind is up for bid in an auction I was browsing through earlier today). But the things that I found most amazing are that 1) there was no description by the TPG as to whether the scorecard was filled out, and 2) the grading system has nothing to do with how a card might be graded. The grading system seems pretty lenient compared to cards, as no torn/tattered card I have ever seen would escape with a grade of 3. But for scorecards, it looks like a whole different ballgame. I also wonder whether the lack of mentioning of scored vs. unscored is a statement to the effect that it doesn't matter, although all scorecard collectors will tell you that they'd prefer a scorecard that is neatly scored vs scoring done with very poor penmanship and that is unintelligible.

So...the million-dollar question would be whether the majority of scorecard collectors will now make a move to grade and slab at least some of their scorecards if the pricing is not too outrageous. Of course, while the right slabbed scorecards may bring top dollar, the trade-off would be that a collector would no longer be able to experience the enjoyment of opening and gazing at the inside of that scorecard again.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

No new scorecard to show at the moment, but definitely something about scorecards to talk about...

I noticed that once company that grades comic books had been grading and slabbing Sports Illustrated mags for some time, much like comic books. But I had never, until very recently, noticed that they are also grading and slabbing scorecards! Perhaps I have been living under a rock for some time! When did any company start doing this?

I have not noticed many examples of graded/slabbed scorecards. Those that I've seen I've just happened to stumble on by chance (one that comes to mind is up for bid in an auction I was browsing through earlier today). But the things that I found most amazing are that 1) there was no description by the TPG as to whether the scorecard was filled out, and 2) the grading system has nothing to do with how a card might be graded. The grading system seems pretty lenient compared to cards, as no torn/tattered card I have ever seen would escape with a grade of 3. But for scorecards, it looks like a whole different ballgame. I also wonder whether the lack of mentioning of scored vs. unscored is a statement to the effect that it doesn't matter, although all scorecard collectors will tell you that they'd prefer a scorecard that is neatly scored vs scoring done with very poor penmanship and that is unintelligible.

So...the million-dollar question would be whether the majority of scorecard collectors will now make a move to grade and slab at least some of their scorecards if the pricing is not too outrageous. Of course, while the right slabbed scorecards may bring top dollar, the trade-off would be that a collector would no longer be able to experience the enjoyment of opening and gazing at the inside of that scorecard again.

I'm with you on that one!
Why would you slab a scorecard that allowed you to view all the pages and content?
That's beyond me...

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

One of my favorite pickups from the National in Chicago is an unusual exhibition scorebook that I had never seen that has some interesting historic significance.

Monday, August 15, 1932 was the Bicentennial Anniversary of Washington DC.
Virtually all MLB baseball teams did not play on this date.

To commemorate the Washington DC Bicentennial, a special Exhibition game was played that pitted members of the 1924 World Champion Washington Nats team that included HOF Walter Johnson and Goose Goslin vs. the current 1932 Washington Team managed by WaJo.

WaJo pitched some of the innings for the 1924 World Champion squad and Marberry pitched the rest. Alas, the upstart 1932 Washington team best the 1924 Champions 6-2 in the game.

Here are some pictures of the scorebook which is remarkable shape considering it's over 90 years old.
I included a closeup of the inside of the scorebook that highlighted the individual significance of WaJo's only win in the World Series in a terrific HOF career.

Enjoy!

This was the Bicentennial of the birth of George Washington, not of the District of Columbia. The District of Columbia was created January 5, 1792. It is something I need to know for some of the legal research I do in D.C.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Michael B

This was the Bicentennial of the birth of George Washington, not of the District of Columbia. The District of Columbia was created January 5, 1792. It is something I need to know for some of the legal research I do in D.C.

Thanks Michael!
BTW, Hank Thomas shared the same info with me, so I stand corrected.
Certainly, an interesting reason to celebrate a bicentennial (?), but pretty cool nevertheless...