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Old 11-14-2017, 08:43 AM
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I’ve seen and other users have posted Auctions from PWCC were the top two or theee bidders are all 90% and 30-40 retractions. Coincidence? Heck, maybe 3 guys all went in on the card so they all decided to bid it up individually. Lol Come on man
I think you are as wrong as can be. And if I were you I would be careful about what you say publicly on this board. You are legally liable for what you (*or anyone for that matter) says on a public forum. Things said on THIS board have been used against the people saying it in court in the past.
IF someone said I shill bid my own auction they very well might get sued (and I have never sued anyone in my life). But if someone makes a statement like you did, I might make them prove it in court or pay a hefty fine and lawyer fees. And my guess is that if Brent wanted to he could sue your butt for what you said. I am no lawyer but that is my thought. That said, I totally agree that there seem to be some shenanigans with the amount of retractions done and the winning bids, sometimes. I think Brent and team are doing better than most to help curb it but there is a lot to still be done. Some of it needs to be on the ebay side.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:46 AM
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Guys, I appreciate you letting me vent. I have decided to not sell high dollar cards on my own anymore (Anything over, say $300)....It is obvious that PWCC has the monopoly on Ebay baseball card auctions. They get the eyeballs. They get the bids. This will just be SINGLE cards, as I can't justify paying the high percentage commission they charge on sets (20% I believe). Correct me if I am wrong, but it also looks like their rates have gone up. If you can't beat them, join them.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:00 AM
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Some of it needs to be on the ebay side.
Ebay needs to step up on A LOT of it!! I doubt they will though because it lines their pockets. That is why Ebay turns a blind eye towards sellers like Battlefield. For the record, I am 100% positive Brent, nor anyone on his team shill bids. They don't have to. I do believe most of the shenanigans are on the consignors. I can't speak on the altered card that was sold that got enhanced.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:21 AM
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Ive seen and other users have posted Auctions from PWCC were the top two or theee bidders are all 90% and 30-40 retractions. Coincidence? Heck, maybe 3 guys all went in on the card so they all decided to bid it up individually. Lol Come on man
Brent has already been caught engaging in fraud in his auctions and I don't believe there's any question that shill bidding goes on in his auctions. Brent, I'm looking forward to your lawsuit and I'll be taking yours and Betsy's depositions myself if you wish to sue.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:27 AM
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Brent has already been caught engaging in fraud in his auctions and I don't believe there's any question that shill bidding goes on in his auctions. Brent, I'm looking forward to your lawsuit and I'll be taking yours and Betsy's depositions myself if you wish to sue.
So you are saying specifically that Brent shilled his own auctions?
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:33 AM
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brent has already been caught engaging in fraud in his auctions and i don't believe there's any question that shill bidding goes on in his auctions. Brent, i'm looking forward to your lawsuit and i'll be taking yours and betsy's depositions myself if you wish to sue.
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So you are saying specifically that Brent shilled his own auctions?
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That is not what he said which should be obvious to most intelligent people.
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That is not what he said which should be obvious to most intelligent people.
now THAT is funny!
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:57 PM
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He didn't accuse Brent of shilling but fraud.

There was some anecdote a few months back with emails being posted about how Brent instructed some dude to place a bid for some reason. Can't remember the specifics and it was pretty convoluted. Sort of glad it didn't have the electrical charge to adhere to any brain cells. Perhaps that saga is what Jeff is referring.
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