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Old 04-17-2017, 12:48 PM
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How much would you estimate the collection to be worth? Even if you could get $100 to $200 for those first covers you'd have to have 500 of them to reach half the estimate given.

I think about 50 Grand will be realistic, but they WILL spend some money on grading to get to that figure. If they are as high grade as they look, there will be several that go for $300 bucks or more apiece, with some much higher.

I think a high end Prefontaine or high end Cassius Clay will easily fall into the 500-1000 range.

This is not even taking into account the prototypes mentioned, that I imagine some will be eager to get into their collections.

Just filtering through Sold unsigned Sport Illustrated that ended on Ebay in the last 90 days, there's plenty of results that signify a trend, and most of the better issues have not even been traded in the last 90 days. Saw a couple of not so great looking Prefontaines that sold at between 60 and 80 bucks.

I see several CGC graded issues that I'd consider run of the mill but in great condition, that traded for 100 bucks and higher.
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Old 04-17-2017, 12:49 PM
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............and like I said earlier. I hate Sports Illustrated's. They're heavy and they take up too much space.
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:05 PM
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I think about 50 Grand will be realistic, but they WILL spend some money on grading to get to that figure. If they are as high grade as they look, there will be several that go for $300 bucks or more apiece, with some much higher.

I think a high end Prefontaine or high end Cassius Clay will easily fall into the 500-1000 range.

This is not even taking into account the prototypes mentioned, that I imagine some will be eager to get into their collections.

Just filtering through Sold unsigned Sport Illustrated that ended on Ebay in the last 90 days, there's plenty of results that signify a trend, and most of the better issues have not even been traded in the last 90 days. Saw a couple of not so great looking Prefontaines that sold at between 60 and 80 bucks.

I see several CGC graded issues that I'd consider run of the mill but in great condition, that traded for 100 bucks and higher.
Ok, you're up to $1000, only $49-99,000 to go. The "prototype" issues are the dummy issues I'm sure and they are not that rare. Maybe a couple hundred each. I like how you assume people here are "underestimating" the value when you yourself say you cannot sell a boxing issue unless in the 1st Clay issue and you left boxes behind when you bought a large collection.

Heritage can put whatever value on them they want to entice some rube to auction his find thru them. Maybe they do get a little more by paying some idiot to "grade" them. Giving them the benifit of the doubt, you're up to $10,000 including a hell of a lot of grading fees.

Bottom line, it sounds like a great buying opportunity for you. With all your knowledge of SI's there surely is a lot of meat left on the bone to flip to all these buyers you found. I will just have to be satisfied with my "mid grade" magazine collection that I will continue to try to sell.
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:32 PM
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Sounds like I offended you. Sorry if that's the case. I'll keep my opinions to myself from here on out.
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Old 04-18-2017, 01:35 AM
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Embrace it... Its part of the magazine's history and provenance.
After all, if it wasn't for that "random stranger", you wouldn't have the magazine to begin with.
It's been years, but my father had removed mailing labels from older magazines by opening up the first page and laying a thin cloth on the back of the first page. He then took an iron and put it on the cloth to heat up the glue that was holding the label on. Most were removed fairly easily after that. As I recall most of those magazines were pre-1970 though, with most from the 40's - mid-60's.
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Sounds like I offended you. Sorry if that's the case. I'll keep my opinions to myself from here on out.
Please don't Dave...I value your opinion.

I think you might be high on your estimate of value...but I do think that there is decent money in this purchase if marketed correctly (based on my 30 years collecting Sports Publications and 20ish years selling on eBay).

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Old 04-18-2017, 08:53 AM
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Maybe I'm cynical but it's a pretty good marketing ploy for Heritage to offer insuring the collection for 100K. The benefits are two fold: the guy will consign with Heritage and the house can collect consignment fees, and Heritage gets its name in the newspaper. Putting the 100K value also attracts more attention than "collection may be worth $3,000" or something like that.

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It's been years, but my father had removed mailing labels from older magazines by opening up the first page and laying a thin cloth on the back of the first page. He then took an iron and put it on the cloth to heat up the glue that was holding the label on. Most were removed fairly easily after that. As I recall most of those magazines were pre-1970 though, with most from the 40's - mid-60's.
Thanks for sharing this tip! I'm gonna have to give it a try one of these days.
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Dave,
I apologize for barking back that strong as everyone can and generally does offer an opinion, but seriously $50,000 plus? If you have been in the game as long as I am assuming you have been, that number seems ridiculous. I looked at 6 pages of sold SI's and yes some did have some decent numbers, but 90% were unsold and many of those were newer "Mike Trout" 1st edition or something like that. It doesn't even mention if it's a complete run and only a few magazines were shown.

Add to that, try recovering some of these fees from CGC:

Economy On-time 25 business days $200 per book $28 per book
Standard On-time 15 business days $400 per book $37 per book
Express On-time 5 business days $800 per book $55 per book
WalkThru On-time Same day No limit $77 per book

Jeff, that's great that you have been buying and selling sports memorabilia and magazines for 20-30 years, me too. You're going to tell me that you would be willing to buy this run for $10,000 or more?

I am not trying to offend anyone and i'm sorry if i'm ruffling feathers for people, but I think Heritage might be expecting a lot.
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Jeff, that's great that you have been buying and selling sports memorabilia and magazines for 20-30 years, me too. You're going to tell me that you would be willing to buy this run for $10,000 or more?
Nope. I never said that. I think at $300 that they got a hell of a deal. With hard work and the correct marketing of the better issues and rarities they can turn a nice profit.

I thought you were harsh with Dave who was offering his opinion. You made it personal and you don't even know him. I have met Dave in person (because of Net54) and know that he has a ton of knowledge and experience. I have followed his eBay auctions and have visited his website.

You say that you are experienced which I have no reason to doubt. Do you have a website or an eBay account showing the items that you have for sale?

Instead of attacking you, I supported him.

Jeff

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