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Old 04-05-2017, 01:06 AM
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Default T206 Wagner Sales History

Does anyone have any confirmed sales of T206 Wagner cards from around the 1960s? I can only find sales from 1980s and earlier, and the fact that it was listed at $50 in a 1933 card catalog. I'd be interested in knowing what it sold for in between those time periods. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 04-05-2017, 08:38 AM
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Never say never...but, what you are looking for will be very, very, if not impossible to find.

Before the card explosion in the 1980s, there was not a lot of 'outside' interest in the hobby, much less what appeared at the time to be just another old card.

Noticeable records did not really begin until the 1980s.

Now, I respect my elders, so if my analysis of this is incorrect, and you qualify as an elder, please share your knowledge.

IMO, I would think such a data search should only be tied to abject curiosity because if anything is found, it will not be germane to current evaluations.

...and finally, there is something attractive in newly discovered, long stashed-away and not thought of cards 'jumping' directly from whatever abyss to become that days' Black Swamp find, etc.

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Old 04-05-2017, 08:42 AM
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Yes, there are quite a few Wagner sales reported before the 1980s, relatively speaking. As someone who collects very old hobby publications I have seen several references to private sales. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't have a few they could mention, off hand.
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I seem to recall in year 2000 when Mastro Auctions was offering "THE Wagner", Rob Lifson was with the company then, and prepared an extremely impressive presentation of the card, including a list of sales. This occasion marked the time when the card sold for over $1,000,000. So, now to track down a nearly 17-year old auction catalog. Good luck.

I believe it was back in 1962 when Frank Nagy bought his Wagner, and it cost him a whopping $250, at the time a fortune for just one card. What I remember is that Nagy said the card was shipped with TWENTY POUNDS OF PROTECTIVE WRAPPING---POW!!!!!

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there have been a few stories on this board regarding wagner sales from the 70's and beyond I believe...you just have to find them!!!!
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Not sure if this has been shared yet or not, but I read this a few days back....while no dollar amounts are shown, the chain of ownership for this particular copy is discussed


http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...-scp-auctions/
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Story from the late 1970's...... all names withheld to protect the guilty AND innocent! Collector/dealer arranged to buy a T206 Wagner for $2000 and had a sale for the same card arranged for $2500. The seller showed up at the flea market where the dealer was set up (this was in Nashville, Tennessee) and the dealer was busy with another customer......so hold on.......the prospective buyer showed up and the two guys started talking...... the deal was done for $2250 and the dealer got ZIPP a DEE DO DAH! Like I always said, the cards and the money arent the best part of this hobby....ITS THE STORIES!! ps none of these people were me, I heard the story from the dealer later.......
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trdcrdkid's posts should have information, as well as the dubious Hauls of Shame website has a ton of features on the various histories of the Wagners.
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This page from the Lemke-Wagner files mentions a sale in the early 60's for $100.

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Interesting that the theoretical count back then in 1977 was between 12 and 60. We've found 50 or so by now, 40 years later. And I loved the line about it not finding a bidder at $100 for four consecutive months. Thanks for the article, Rich.
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