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Old 04-19-2017, 08:32 AM
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"I think many here are under-estimating this collection. Maybe not 100 Grand, but I have to imagine Heritage knows what they are doing in regards to this grouping."

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"Unfair to compare them to a typical mid-grade collection of these that several select issues might be cherry picked out of."

Both of these statements are making bold assumptions about people making comments on this story. I guess it's not ok to take an opposing view of some "long time" sellers opinion.

Also, thanks and yes I have been selling on eBay for 20 years and I do have a website that I don't really sell on anymore, but I don't really feel the need to prove anything to you or get in some type or who's more knowledgeable contest. If you're as knowledgeable as you're claiming you know the numbers being thrown around are ludicrous.
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:26 AM
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I would guess a sports ill junkie would overpay for some of the issues in high grade, but again, many there would be little or no interest in. He should just give it all to Heritage, with the tapes and all, and even w their fees, etc. he will get a REAL NICE profit, on just 330.00 orig investment.

I can understand wanting to get the "most you can', but in some cases, just getting a strong profit is easier in the long run.
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:41 AM
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Like Jason, I have been buying and selling SI's forever. I would be very excited to find a collection like this because of the condition and the fact that they all appear to be NEWSSTAND Edition magazines. The two prototype (Dummy) issues are not impossible to find. I probably have 2-3 of each of them right now. They can sell for $200-$300 each on a good day. The first issue sells for $150-$200. The second issue sells for $200-$250. The 1955 Williams and the 1956 Mantle Newsstand Editions usually sell for $200-$300. The 1963 Clay and the 1970 Prefontaine will also sell for a few hundred. The 1955 Hogen, 1961 Maris and the 1955 Mays/Durocher will sell well if they have the NEWSSTAND flaps but probably $150 tops for each. There are some other issues that sell well and are very collectible because they are NEWSSTAND Editions but not for crazy money. On a good day if this seller could get $15,000 he should take it and be completely happy. A more realistic estimate is $7,500.
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Fella's, it's fine. I suggest we just wait until the Heritage auction and see what happens. I don't know if anybody noticed, but I did make the caveat that they would have have to spend a pretty penny on CGC grading to get to the number I threw out there.

I'm also going on the assumption that Heritage somewhat knows what it is doing in even accepting this collection. Selling off a huge magazine collection like this is extremely labor intensive, and they have to justify any consignment fee/buyers premium they get, with the work they put into it.

I'll be curious how they offer it out. Whether it's as one complete run, which is easier for them but will in no way get anywhere near the figure I mentioned......or will they break it up, use CGC for a couple hundred issues at least (I imagine they would have some sort of a sweetheart deal a normal collector wouldn't have access to) and break up into singles and raw higher grade 50 to 100 piece groups.
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Heritage also tends to get bidders who apparently have no clue that ebay exists. Just yesterday I was researching an old accordion style trade card from the 1880s. Worthpoint shows about 5 or 6 sales in the past decade all showing them from $10 to $20, one even sold on ebay two months ago for $10...but Heritage had one and it sold for $175. I wouldn't rule out some hype to a complete collection pulling in bidders who are not necessarily sports memorabilia collectors.
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Heritage also tends to get bidders who apparently have no clue that ebay exists. Just yesterday I was researching an old accordion style trade card from the 1880s. Worthpoint shows about 5 or 6 sales in the past decade all showing them from $10 to $20, one even sold on ebay two months ago for $10...but Heritage had one and it sold for $175. I wouldn't rule out some hype to a complete collection pulling in bidders who are not necessarily sports memorabilia collectors.
Now this I can agree with, but still not at those numbers.
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Heritage also tends to get bidders who apparently have no clue that ebay exists. Just yesterday I was researching an old accordion style trade card from the 1880s. Worthpoint shows about 5 or 6 sales in the past decade all showing them from $10 to $20, one even sold on ebay two months ago for $10...but Heritage had one and it sold for $175. I wouldn't rule out some hype to a complete collection pulling in bidders who are not necessarily sports memorabilia collectors.
Very true Dan. These "glossy, super slick" auctions spend the money to make presentations that blow your mind out, or , in the case of a less valuable piece, the "name" does it. I mean, its great for super valuable pieces, but otherwise, you pay for the name.

Same w the Alphabet boys COA's w autographs. Yes, on some its a valuable selling point to have one, but lets face it, as Chris, Richard, Jim and many others have said, do your research and you can get a good item, that is real.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:36 PM
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Heritage also tends to get bidders who apparently have no clue that ebay exists. Just yesterday I was researching an old accordion style trade card from the 1880s. Worthpoint shows about 5 or 6 sales in the past decade all showing them from $10 to $20, one even sold on ebay two months ago for $10...but Heritage had one and it sold for $175. I wouldn't rule out some hype to a complete collection pulling in bidders who are not necessarily sports memorabilia collectors.
I agree. Heritage, Hake's, whoever. The auction houses always get stupid prices.
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Like Jason, I have been buying and selling SI's forever. I would be very excited to find a collection like this because of the condition and the fact that they all appear to be NEWSSTAND Edition magazines. The two prototype (Dummy) issues are not impossible to find. I probably have 2-3 of each of them right now. They can sell for $200-$300 each on a good day. The first issue sells for $150-$200. The second issue sells for $200-$250. The 1955 Williams and the 1956 Mantle Newsstand Editions usually sell for $200-$300. The 1963 Clay and the 1970 Prefontaine will also sell for a few hundred. The 1955 Hogen, 1961 Maris and the 1955 Mays/Durocher will sell well if they have the NEWSSTAND flaps but probably $150 tops for each. There are some other issues that sell well and are very collectible because they are NEWSSTAND Editions but not for crazy money. On a good day if this seller could get $15,000 he should take it and be completely happy. A more realistic estimate is $7,500.
Well said and as a collector who purchases Sports Illustrated covers (baseball only) to have signed, I totally agree.
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