T206 Red Cobby/Drum on ebay

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Posted By: Bill Todd

What is considered good (or acceptable) etiquette when speaking about another board member's Johnson??
David

Depends on whether it's a portrait or an action pose.

Bill

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Posted By: Ed Hans

Man, I'm glad my kids don't read this forum.

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Posted By: Marc S.

I'm afraid to ask..but what was the front of the Drum back in Oser that got separated for the creation of this monstrosity?

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Marc,
I had narrowed it down to 2 cards before I located the consecutive Cert numbers, but stopped looking after that.
I will look at the last 3 catalogs when I get home and try to post the results. Be well Brian

PS I think Art named the "butchered" Drum in the old thread about Scott's card.

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Posted By: Jon Canfield

Did anyone notice how the Cobb had a strip of orange at the top? - I found it interesting since we sometimes see the orange background Cobb's and this front seemed to have a single "pass" of orange at the top...

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Posted By: Art M.

The original T206 Drum back card was a Donovan, throwing pose, Detroit. It came out of the April 29, 2000 Ron Oser auction, lot #47.

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Posted By: Brent Huigens

To All Who've Posted.

I just want to thank everyone for the time and effort put forth in researching this "card". Scott Levy first contacted me to discuss the legitimacy, and afterwards swayed me to end the auction.

I myself am mostly a collector, and hate the thought of a card like this "floating around" to potentially fall upon some unknowing buyer for $15,000! This card already exchanged hands for a high price tag, which I feel strongly BVG should be held accountable. The card (a consignment) is still in my possession and will remain there until this issue is resolved. I sincerely hope that BVG steps to the plate to address this issue.

If I don't get a phone call or email in the next few days, I will be contacting Beckett directly.

As a side note, this is my first experience with this message board, but needless to say it's doing a great job, and certainly helps the hobby of collecting. I'm assuming that Scott's helpful discussion was fueled in no small part by info exchange here.

Keep it up.

Brent Huigens
PWCC Auctions
805-440-8903

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Posted By: Scott Levy

Thanks for the recognition Brent. I think that you've handled the situation admirably. And I hope that you will join the board as a regular. I will also be interested to see what Beckett says.

In full disclosure, I had purchased the previous serial number Cobb/Drum and held it for several yeats before sending it to PSA about a year ago. PSA initially had slabbed it as a crossover from BVG. Then upon a second inspection they determined that the card was indeed rebacked. To make a long story short, PSA worked out an adequate arrangement to buy the first FrankenCobb, take it out of circulation, and make me whole -- that is probably why I was so persistent on this one.

Regards,
Scott

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Posted By: Josh

I liked the way you handled this. I noticed you are in the "805"... Where about? Santa Barbara here....

Josh

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Posted By: Steve

Excellent outcome to this auction... Kick some Becket butt Brent.

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Posted By: Brent Huigens

Thanks for the kind words from all.

I am actually located just south of San Francisco (Burlingame). I got my MS at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, which is where I got my '805' area code.

I'll hope to keep in touch with the message boards.

Regards,

Brent

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Posted By: Mark Anderson

Email sent re: T206 Cobb (Red) Drum Back. Sorry for the delay. Just got back in town.

Mark Anderson, Director
Beckett Grading Services

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Posted By: Ted Sherman

UNBELIEVABLE detective work on this card. i mean you even found out WHERE the back came from!!!! Also PWCC always has nice stuff on ebay, and I am pretty sure he would ruin his rep selling this "Frankencard". Anyways auction has gone poof, one more reason to stay away from BVG holders

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Posted By: Brent Huigens

All,

I have positive news regarding this situation. Mark Anderson and I have come to an agreement where Beckett will be reviewing the Cobb/Drum in question, and upon verification of "rebacking" will be purchasing back the card.

In addition to thanking the message board for their involvement, I would also like to extend my upstanding opinion of Mark Anderson and his management of this situation, and the new Beckett Grading (BGS/BVG).

Regards,

Brent Huigens
PWCC Auctions
805-440-8903

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Posted By: Mark Anderson

Please note - a resolution to this has been reached. Details can be found at this new post:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1214419760/last-1214419760/T206+Red+Portrait+Cobb+%28Drum+Back%29+-+RESOLUTION

Thanks again to everyone.
Mark Anderson