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Old 04-04-2024, 06:47 PM
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Never saw a more dominant pitcher than Gooden when he first came up. It was like he was supposed to be in a higher league that didn’t exist. When you see footage of him striking out the side it’s almost comical. Never saw major league look so helpless.
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Old 04-05-2024, 02:07 PM
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Apparently the Mets fan were coked up as well.
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Old 04-05-2024, 02:31 PM
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There are plenty of stats to support the notion that other pitchers in their prime were better than Doc in his prime. I saw Gooden with my own eyes, though. Not through a camera lens, not on a stat sheet. I saw Gooden pitch in person.

It still stands out as the most impressive display of pitching I've ever witnessed. I was in a lower level seat (200 level, Veteran's Stadium) on the third base side. I had the perfect vantage point to watch each pitch from pitcher's hand to catcher's mitt. The combination of speed and movement made it difficult to even track the ball with my eyes. I could only imagine trying to hit the damn thing.

Yes, he had short peak. Yes, he had some off-the-field issues. Still, Dwight Gooden was one hell of a pitcher.

I wouldn't call him the all-time best ever; however, the Mets retiring his number makes sense to me.
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No question it was an amazing season and no question that when he came on the scene it was an astonishing thing to see. That said, peak Pedro was better.
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During the same ceremony they will also be retiring Darryl Strawberry's #18.

Strawberry had the one of the sweetest swings ever. I'll never forget when he hit a home run at Shea that traveled so far that it a moving train. Couldn't find a video of that, but here are some others.

Game 7 of the 1986 World Series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjfJJUqPF0g

Blast off the roof of Expos' Olympic Stadium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3sdYKj_VHc
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During the same ceremony they will also be retiring Darryl Strawberry's #18.

Strawberry had the one of the sweetest swings ever. I'll never forget when he hit a home run at Shea that traveled so far that it a moving train. Couldn't find a video of that, but here are some others.

Game 7 of the 1986 World Series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjfJJUqPF0g

Blast off the roof of Expos' Olympic Stadium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3sdYKj_VHc
His swing was a thing of beauty. He and Gooden both so underachieved.
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