Ty Cobb 1907 rare rookie postcards - Their origin stories told

[orly57]

Jim, if the whole Judge career thing doesn't work out, you can be my private investigator any time. Awesome research. I think you confirmed the long-standing suspicion that the Fielding came first and was quickly replaced by the Batting.

[Bicem]

Amazing research Jim!

[Baseball Rarities]

Great info Jim. Really appreciate the post.

[WillowGrove]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Great info Jim. Really appreciate the post.

+1

Good info too on the postmarked dates of other early Cobb PCs Kevin. Thanks

[ullmandds]

Fantastic presentation jim!!! I was not familiar with the Lafond images those are so cool!!

[calvindog]

Jim, fantastic work there.

Kevin, thanks for that info.

[benchod]

Great sleuthing, Jim. Thanks for the informative post

Kevin, thanks for the postmark information; you know where a lot of the bodies are buried in this hobby!

Here is my meager contribution

[Kris19]

Shameless leveraging of Jim's awesome research and post, I just listed an H.M. Taylor "Tyrus Cobb at Bat" postcard, PSA 3.5, for sale in the B/S/T section. Thanks, Jim!

[T206Jim]

Thanks guys, the Floral Horseshoe completed my H.M. Taylor set and this post was my way of celebrating. For me, half of fun of this hobby is acquiring knowledge and the other half is sharing it! Oh and Kris, when can I expect that commission check?

[the-illini]

Great information!

Here is a related item I picked up on Ebay recently - an interior shot of the "Dietsche Rememberance Shop" on Woodward Avenue in Detroit...

[T206Jim]

Orlando, it is funny how we sometimes just chance into a revelation. I was researching the LaFond version when I just happened to notice the Cobb Fielding in the corner, realized the significance of the dates, and thought this might just prove that long standing theory. Spread the news to the Cobb and Dietsche collectors out there.

[Baseball Rarities]

Here is a team display sheet. Unfortunately, not mine.

[Baseball Rarities]

Here are just a few notes that I have regarding the different Cobb "rookie cards." For reference, the World Series that year started on October 8 in Chicago and ended on October 12 in Detroit.

Detroit Seamless Postcard - of the six known examples, five are postmarked - three on October 4, 1907, one October 5 and one on October 7.

Wolverine Postcard - the earliest postmark from this set that I can find is October 9, 1907. Few of the postcards from this set found cancelled.

AC Dietsche - the earliest postmark from this set that I can find is October 9, 1907. Only a small percentage of postcards from this set are found cancelled.

HM Taylor Postcard - the earliest postmark from this set that I can find is October 7, 1907. Most of the postcards that I see from this set are canceled..

W600 - first offered to the public in the October 19, 1907 issue of the Sporting Life.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by orly57

Jim, if the whole Judge career thing doesn't work out, you can be my private investigator any time. Awesome research. I think you confirmed the long-standing suspicion that the Fielding came first and was quickly replaced by the Batting.

+1!!! Great post, especially from the perspective of one who has both 1907 Dietsche Cobbs!

Thanks much,

Larry

[insidethewrapper]

I'm confused ! The ad in the Detroit Free Press states : " All the Detroit Stars in fielding positions " but the photo in the window shows many of the photos
( players ) in a batting position. Does this mean all the players with a batting pose have a variation like Cobb ( both fielding and batting ) ??

[T206Jim]

No, the Fielding/Batting dinstinction is a purely modern collecting construct. They meant the players are depicted in action.

[insidethewrapper]

Thanks Jim. I would never have thought fielding meant batting.

[SAllen2556]

Here's the 1908 ad from November 3rd which mentions the updates to the set.
Edited to add: I found no ad whatsoever from 1909.

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[insidethewrapper]

Scott: Great ad ! Is that from the Detroit Free Press ? It's a 20 card set but they only listed 19 players ( they omitted - Fred Payne in the ad) to make 20 .

Still looking for the 1909 issue to see if it lists the Team Photo as part of the set. Let us know if you or others find anything from that year.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Here's the 1908 ad from November 3rd which mentions the updates to the set.

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That is a neat ad!!