When will I ever learn??

[bobbyw8469]

Like a hardhead, I continually list nice, vintage items on my own. And I continually see my items get pummeled for a fraction of their worth. Meanwhile, PWCC can sell even PSA 1's and 2's of commons for big money. At what point do I wave to white flag and stop listing on my own and just ship everything off to them?

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Like a hardhead, I continually list nice, vintage items on my own. And I continually see my items get pummeled for a fraction of their worth. Meanwhile, PWCC can sell even PSA 1's and 2's of commons for big money. At what point do I wave to white flag and stop listing on my own and just ship everything off to them?

The definition of insane is doing something over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Try it a few more times though to be sure.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

The definition of insane is doing something over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Try it a few more times though to be sure.

^^THIS^^ I would ask for you to update us with the results but I am sure you will post the results without my asking.

[Econteachert205]

Bobby, when I want to sell I just put it on the bst with a price I think is fair. Or if I just want it gone I use the auction thread here.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

Bobby, when I want to sell I just put it on the bst with a price I think is fair. Or if I just want it gone I use the auction thread here.

Here???? As in Net54??? And you feel here does better than Ebay?? Don't get me wrong...I love it here. And I have been beaten up black and blue by Ebay. But SURELY Net54 doesn't get the eyeballs Ebay gets.....

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Here???? As in Net54??? And you feel here does better than Ebay?? Don't get me wrong...I love it here. And I have been beaten up black and blue by Ebay. But SURELY Net54 doesn't get the eyeballs Ebay gets.....

Didn't you actually try selling on here and then complain about giving away cards on here also?

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Here???? As in Net54??? And you feel here does better than Ebay?? Don't get me wrong...I love it here. And I have been beaten up black and blue by Ebay. But SURELY Net54 doesn't get the eyeballs Ebay gets.....

You also do not have to pay the fees to sell on here as with eBay.

[Leon]

When I do something that doesn't work eventually I learn not to do it.

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Like a hardhead, I continually list nice, vintage items on my own. And I continually see my items get pummeled for a fraction of their worth. Meanwhile, PWCC can sell even PSA 1's and 2's of commons for big money. At what point do I wave to white flag and stop listing on my own and just ship everything off to them?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Like a hardhead, I continually list nice, vintage items on my own. And I continually see my items get pummeled for a fraction of their worth. Meanwhile, PWCC can sell even PSA 1's and 2's of commons for big money. At what point do I wave to white flag and stop listing on my own and just ship everything off to them?

I think their are two kinds of auctions on PWCC's platform and most AH's: legitimate ones and shilled ones. if you are not going to engage a few friends to pump up the volume on your auctions you probably will be disappointed at the end of the day. That's certainly been my experience.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I think their are two kinds of auctions on PWCC's platform and most AH's: legitimate ones and shilled ones. if you are not going to engage a few friends to pump up the volume on your auctions you probably will be disappointed at the end of the day. That's certainly been my experience.

So do you currently not send to them?

And Leon, didn't you use Heritage to dispose of your stuff? What did you think of them?

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Like a hardhead, I continually list nice, vintage items on my own. And I continually see my items get pummeled for a fraction of their worth. Meanwhile, PWCC can sell even PSA 1's and 2's of commons for big money. At what point do I wave to white flag and stop listing on my own and just ship everything off to them?

I know you've made this claim on here many times, but I have decent results when I run auctions, and I don't shill them.

I have no idea what you're selling, but maybe your expectations are too high? Why don't you post a couple of links to items where you got "pummeled for a fraction of their worth", and see if others agree.

You might be accurate, but I hardly ever see items sell on eBay for a fraction of their worth, so I'd love to see what you're listing.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by scooter729

I know you've made this claim on here many times, but I have decent results when I run auctions, and I don't shill them.

I have no idea what you're selling, but maybe your expectations are too high? Why don't you post a couple of links to items where you got "pummeled for a fraction of their worth", and see if others agree.

You might be accurate, but I hardly ever see items sell on eBay for a fraction of their worth, so I'd love to see what you're listing.

Hmm...do a ebay search for 1940 World Series Stub PSA....I sold a game #7 stub last month for $172.01 (PSA 3)......last night I sold a PSA 4....I was expecting AT LEAST $200 (BINs of only authentic cards sell for $250+). The PSA 4 sold for less than the PSA 3 sold for - $164.06). That is frustrating.

[markf31]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Hmm...do a ebay search for 1940 World Series Stub PSA....I sold a game #7 stub last month for $172.01 (PSA 3)......last night I sold a PSA 4....I was expecting AT LEAST $200 (BINs of only authentic cards sell for $250+). The PSA 4 sold for less than the PSA 3 sold for - $164.06). That is frustrating.

That is certainly frustrating. World Series tickets in general seem to be all over the place in regards to value.

Here is a 1940, Game 1, PSA 5 that went for $144 just in August 2018:
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...151823-42135.s

Yet here is nother, 1940, Game 2, PSA 5 that went for $336 in August 2017
https://goldinauctions.com/1940_Worl...-LOT33067.aspx

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by markf31

That is certainly frustrating. World Series tickets in general seem to be all over the place in regards to value.

Here is a 1940, Game 1, PSA 5 that went for $144 just in August 2018:
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...151823-42135.s

Yet here is nother, 1940, Game 2, PSA 5 that went for $336 in August 2017
https://goldinauctions.com/1940_Worl...-LOT33067.aspx

And game 7's should be worth more....as it was the deciding game. Certain tickets also have a premium, depending on what happened during the game. PSA doesn't acknowledge that in their SMR.

[scooter729]

WS tickets have a much smaller collector base than a commodity type of card, and as noted in the Heritage links, prices can be all over the place. I have bought things like this from PWCC on the low end. I would totally agree with you that I wouldn't sell items like this in a straight .99 auction.

Hopefully this isn't the basis for the "woe is me" posts - if you post a decent T206 card and get half of a PWCC sale for a similar looking card, then you have some ground to stand on for the claim. But a one-off WS ticket sale is just a sign of a thinly-collected item vs. a mass shilling scandal or the world being out to get you.

[BruceinGa]

What I have seen in the past year or so is the nicely centered cards in a 5 or 6 have really shot up. This applies to PWCC, Probstein and individuals.

[jchcollins]

I don’t know if you are running auctions or what format. I have seen my items get “pummeled” before when I list a bunch of mediocre ungraded post war vintage with $1 starting bids or something like that. They sit there untouched and then someone sweeps in with a minute left and buys everything for the opening bid. If you have something slightly nicer (and it really helps if it’s graded) - then stick with BIN format maybe with offers so you won’t have to let something go for pennies on the dollar. Yes, it will take longer that way - but it’s worth it. I do this with anything I’m selling that I’m trying to get more than $50 out of.


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[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

I don’t know if you are running auctions or what format. I have seen my items get “pummeled” before when I list a bunch of mediocre ungraded post war vintage with $1 starting bids or something like that. They sit there untouched and then someone sweeps in with a minute left and buys everything for the opening bid. If you have something slightly nicer (and it really helps if it’s graded) - then stick with BIN format maybe with offers so you won’t have to let something go for pennies on the dollar. Yes, it will take longer that way - but it’s worth it. I do this with anything I’m selling that I’m trying to get more than $50 out of.


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I'm running auctions....like the .99 cent variety. I am an "old schooler" Ebayer....Yes....I remember the hay day in the early 2000's when the fees were around 3-4% and everything did well on there. My how times have changed.

[jrawlsian]

I've won some and lost some with them. If you have a low-population mega-key card, you will probably realize a great price. In contrast, I would recommend selling most autographed items (except for autographed slabbed cards) yourself or with another service.

Steve

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Like a hardhead, I continually list nice, vintage items on my own. And I continually see my items get pummeled for a fraction of their worth. Meanwhile, PWCC can sell even PSA 1's and 2's of commons for big money. At what point do I wave to white flag and stop listing on my own and just ship everything off to them?

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Like a hardhead, I continually list nice, vintage items on my own. And I continually see my items get pummeled for a fraction of their worth. Meanwhile, PWCC can sell even PSA 1's and 2's of commons for big money. At what point do I wave to white flag and stop listing on my own and just ship everything off to them?

I have been asking myself this exact same question for months

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

I have been asking myself this exact same question for months

It's ridiculous. Have all buyers just totally abandoned other sellers on Ebay and just gone exclusively with PWCC & Probstein? I thought Ebay was supposed to "level the playing field". Instead, it created a chasm that is a mile wide.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

It's ridiculous. Have all buyers just totally abandoned other sellers on Ebay and just gone exclusively with PWCC & Probstein? I thought Ebay was supposed to "level the playing field". Instead, it created a chasm that is a mile wide.

Bobby you've been complaining forever it seems that you aren't happy with your prices realized. Why don't you consign some lots and see how you do?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bobby you've been complaining forever it seems that you aren't happy with your prices realized. Why don't you consign some lots and see how you do?

I've consigned with them in the past. I never got the earth shattering prices I see others get.....just so-so.....and I don't like waiting 4 months to get paid.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I've consigned with them in the past. I never got the earth shattering prices I see others get.....just so-so.....and I don't like waiting 4 months to get paid.

Then there you are.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I've consigned with them in the past. I never got the earth shattering prices I see others get.....just so-so.....and I don't like waiting 4 months to get paid.

I've been pleased with the results every time I've consigned to pwcc, and not one of my auctions was shilled. I have also never had to wait 4 months to get paid. A couple of times I wanted the cash right away for another purpose, and 50-75% of what I estimated my cards would bring was sent the day after my shipment arrived.