New SGC Look?

[Jason]

I just went to log in and saw the new setup.Im looking it over now. It looks like the flips will indeed be changed.

[glchen]

It definitely looks sleeker. However, IMHO, it could still use some improvements:

(1) How do I look at my past submissions?
(2) There is an Auto Verify. How about a regular cert verify also?
(3) The Population report could still use a lot of fixing. First, you cannot search by year for the set that you want. Not sure why they removed this feature. Also the searches don't work very well. For example, I did a search on the set name e121-80, and it came up with no results found. Then I did e121, and it found a couple of sets, but no players were in these sets. If they allowed search by year, then at least you wouldn't have to guess at what could be the correct set name. Also when I did a search on Player Name for Babe Ruth, I got a long list of practically incomprehensible search results. I had to basically click on each link to try to find the ones that would be useful. Still, the look is better than before as it looks like the population search results are now sorted correctly, and you don't have to click on multiple pages to see the cards in the set. I think it's a good step in the right direction, overall.

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by glchen

It definitely looks sleeker. However, IMHO, it could still use some improvements:

For example, I did a search on the set name e121-80, and it came up with no results found. Then I did e121, and it found a couple of sets, but no players were in these sets. If they allowed search by year, then at least you wouldn't have to guess at what could be the correct set name.

I think you'll have to type American Caramel to get the true results.

Cheers,
Blair

[Bosox Blair]

Don't mind the graded cards one, but not a fan of the Authentic (auto) one.

Site looks good. Pop reports are now much easier to use, but still could be better. For instance, you can't type in T207 as the set...you have to type in Recruit. Similarly you can't type in M116...you have to type Sporting Life.

Cheers,
Blair

[The Nasty Nati]

Ugh not liking that they changed the authentication labels. The new design is going to throw off the aesthetic and uniformity of my old SGC holders when the new ones are placed next to them (now that the green border is gone). I don't know why they changed the label so "dramatically." At least when PSA redesigned their holders they didn't change the label design.

The OCD part of me doesn't like this new move. I wonder if for the time being you can still get the old label when grading your cards through SGC over the next few months.

But, atleast they are attempting to improve their website.

[calvindog]

Is there a place to check current submissions?

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Is there a place to check current submissions?

Jeff, been looking all day and I couldn't find it for past or current submission status.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I still don't understand why I can't enter a serial number and find out what's it linked to.

[Jay Wolt]

Been on their site a few times today and was quite a shock to see all the changes.
Here's what the new flips look like

[Peter_Spaeth]

Just from the pic those flips look very easy to counterfeit. Hopefully there is something on the back, or not visible, that would make that difficult.

[bobbyw8469]

I am not a fan of those flips......

[Tcards-Please]

I'm not a fan of the new design either nor the loss of cards from my registry. Not quite sure how it doesn't transfer from the old to new? I'm hoping it will be a quick fix with an email.

r/
Frank

[Jason]

Yeah im not a fan of the new flips. I just think they do not look as nice as the old ones. Maybe that will change once I get one in hand.

[kmac32]

Also found my user name and password do not work. I called and they said they still have some bugs to work out. Sometimes change is good but would recommend that you have the bugs worked out before you go live with a website

[sb1]

Changing the flips is a major mistake in my opinion, as others have stated they have no resemblance to the current ones and will make sets and collections non-cohesive. At least when PSA makes changes to the flips they somewhat resemble the older ones. And just when I thought I might go ALL SGC with my set????

[Blackie]

not sure if I like those FLIPs at all.........Ive got a few sets im working on and about mid-way done. Wish there would have been a vote or something.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Been on their site a few times today and was quite a shock to see all the changes.
Here's what the new flips look like

Looks like something I could make at home on my printer. Why??!!

[Matt E.]

SGC,

A fix or two needed; on the SGC Power Ratings

The Wallace, No Cap One Line of 1910 Stats, is clearly harder to obtain the the Two Lines. The SGC power rating is wrong.


209 Bobby Wallace (No Cap, Two Lines Of 1910 Stats) 3
210 Bobby Wallace (No Cap, One Line Of 1910 Stats) 1


Thanks,

Matt E.

[CW]

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[GregMitch34]

One more thing--the wider and brighter white header really takes away from the black mat look. I wouldn't be surprised if these look WORSE, not better in person.

[Tomman1961]

I walked in Tuesday with 2 cards (I live 40 miles from them). The 2 cards I got back were in the "old" style. Green borders, I had a card done by them in 2005 and the label looks the same. Unlesss I am not understanding the term "FLIP".
Thanks-Tom

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

Looks like something I could make at home on my printer. Why??!!

Whoops, thought the images would come with.

[atx840]

I can still see past submissions. First impression, not digging the new flip.

[Bicem]

can't wait to re-holder my collection with those god-awful flips!

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by atx840

I can still see past submissions. First impression, not digging the new flip.

Chris, where did you find the submission status?
I've been looking everywhere on their new site and didn't see it

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Chris, where did you find the submission status?
I've been looking everywhere on their new site and didn't see it

Browne is so technologically hip he probably just hacked and reprogrammed the site.

[sebie43]

I don't like the flips, they feel very generic to me, and as stated above it will stick out like a sore thumb in my collection. Thats my biggest impression, registry I can adjust to.. but this will take some time for me.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

SGC had the best looking holders on the market. Those flips change that in my mind.

[atx840]

I recall seeing this flip prior and thinking it was just a mockup. Hopefully they can change it back, need the green border.

Registry hack
http://69.95.102.243/sgcweb/SignIn.aspx

[the 'stache]

Wait, what the hell?

Horrible, horrible business decision. I will never own a card with this new flip. It's a real eyesore. If I find a card I like, I will send it in to PSA as a crossover.

I have ten cards that I was about to submit to SGC for grading, and several crossovers to follow. If that's the flip they're using, forget it. I'll go to PSA for all my card grading. That's too bad, too, because I've always heard SGC has the best customer service.

Why the heck would they do this? One of the biggest selling points about SGC graded cards was the eye appeal of the slabbed card. The flip they've had popped. It looked really good. This new one looks like something I'd print out on my home computer.

[sforaker]

I do not like new flip. Looks like generic home computer job.

[sforaker]

Only beneficiary of this new flip ... PSA.

[Kenny Cole]

Agree, the new flips suck. Also don't like that checking current and past submissions doesn't currently appear to be possible. Maybe the pop reports and registry information is better. I don't know because I haven't checked, but the new flips and inability to check submission status are a massive step backward IMO.

[The Nasty Nati]

Keep the new watermark but bring back the green borders. That will make everything better. If they don't change the new look I'd wish they'd at least give us a few months to have cards graded with the old labels, as I'm so close to finishing subsets that are all in the now "old" SGC label. That or give loyal customers a discount on re-holdering fees.

Love the company, but this doesn't seem like a very smart move.

[Rich Klein]

At a show, those designs will not stick out. They need to be more colorful.

Say what you want about Beckett grading but the Gold and Silver labels truly stand out at a show. These labels look like they belong to a PRO or an MGS

Rich

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

These labels look like they belong to a PRO or an MGS

That is exactly what I was thinking. They look like they were produced by one of the generic "companies" that only slab fake material.

[the 'stache]

I don't get this. The presentation SGC had with the black gasket, the professional, well-organized flip with the green header, everything looked incredible.

Why do they feel the need to mess with perfection?

This is going to bite them in the behind.

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by Bugsy

That is exactly what I was thinking. They look like they were produced by one of the generic "companies" that only slab fake material.

+1

[barrysloate]

Many companies will test market a product and study the consumer feedback before releasing it into the marketplace. I hope SGC uses this thread as their test audience and proceeds accordingly. Obviously, with near universal dislike of this label- count me among those who think it looks awful- hopefully they will reconsider the change.

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

These labels look like they belong to a PRO or an MGS

Rich

Ditto.

I don't like the new labels. I agree they should use an enhanced watermark on the flip for security measures, but bring back the green border.

Tony

[JasonD08]

The old flips were bad......these are really bad. Put some time into making attractive flips to go with the best holders. This could be costly for I am holding off on further submissions until they change it. IMO they now look like another cheap "fly-by-night" homemade grading service. I understand the clean and simple look, but the flips suck, especially the red cheap looking "authentic" font. Beckett has the most attractive holders in the industry. It is too bad 1 company has best holder, another one has best service, and the biggest one has only the population. Hopefully SGC will take notice and change this while they can.

[the 'stache]

I sent Earl Johnson, the director of customer service, an e-mail linking to this discussion. I told him that I was about to put together an order to get about 10 vintage and pre-war cards graded, and then another order to crossover the T202 and T206 cards that were PSA graded. If what we're seeing here is indicative of the new flip, then I will not be using SGC for my collection. It's really too bad, as I love the way cards look in the SGC slab. The black gasket and the current (soon to be old) flip look very sharp. and everything I've read about their services have been top notch.

If you guys want to make your voices heard, please speak up.

[atx840]

Their secure address is forwarding to another simple auction site, email sent.

https://www.sgccard.com

[sebie43]

SGC has always been top notch to deal with and customer service is great. That being said this was poorly executed, I dont appreciate just having this sprung on me, I should have sent more cards last time. They wont be going anywhere for now.
The main problems was with the gaskets, I understand adding a water mark, but removing the green border was a big mistake, I hope this isnt their final decision.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Jon - The Q Code is a great idea and something I would not have thought of.

[ullmandds]

I would hope that if SGC were changing their flip it would be more of an evolutionary change...maintaining the attributes that we have all come to know and love over the years.

I know an excellent graphic designer who would be able to help with this if interested...651-226-6211...call me!