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T206 question
Posted By: CN
With the recent posts about the Magie and O'hara that just sold I was wondering if I could get an approximate guess as to the populaton of the Magie,O'hara and Demmitt cards as well as the number of Uzits and Drums that exist. Thanks CN |
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T206 question
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Are you polling us??? |
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T206 question
Posted By: Ed McCollum
one of each for me. All beaters. |
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T206 question
Posted By: Steve M.
Magie 150 |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave S
1 ratty O'Hara |
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
+/- |
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T206 question
Posted By: CN
This was not meant to be a poll, what I was interesting in was finding out the approximate total number of each card that exists. Thanks CN |
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T206 question
Posted By: Ed McCollum
I don't have a Magie. Wish I did. But I do have the others (not a reference to LOST, but you should meet my in-laws) |
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
CN- for some reason people are NOT reading your original question correctly... |
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T206 question
Posted By: Rob Fouch
As the purchaser of the recent O'Hara, I'd be curious to know this, too. Just checked the PSA population report and it has 64 graded, mostly 1's and 2's. How about SGC? I don't use SGC so don't have access to the site. Do they have a population report? I know they're not entirely accurate since some people cross over cards and they don't get eliminated in the reports, but it does give some sense of the numbers. (And of course, I know there are probably many ungraded ones.) |
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T206 question
Posted By: Scot Reader
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
wow Scot, our numbers are very close... |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
Wow, the fact there would be that few Drum's and Uzit's is really eye opening. Assuming the guesses are fairly accurate, what would it do to prices of Uzits lets say if a find came up of 125 of them? |
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
Dave- a find of that size is very unlikely...why are you so surprised that drum & uzit are that rare... |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
Michael, |
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T206 question
Posted By: Cobby33
My estimates would be in line with Scot's and MV's as well. |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
I read somewhere there were 113? possible cards issued with Uzit backs. Now the one year that Uzits were produced....how many would have been produced? If 100 total card of each player would have been made...that would have been a total of 11,300 T206's with Uzit backs..and now there is only a couple hundred left? |
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T206 question
Posted By: John
Unlikely yes, but not out of the question REA had a nice little haul of Uzit’s a year or so ago. I forgot how many but I want to say over 50+ cards??? |
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
dave- well, we could also sit here and say "what if" there was a find of 125 wagners, let's say someone's great-grandfather worked at the factories that printed the cards and kept all of the ones that were pulled, or "what if" there was a huge find of 200 demmitts, from someone's grandfather who loved demmitt and hoarded all of his cards (hence the scarcity)...? whether or not i agree with 11,300, is besides the point, let's work with that number...think of the fact that there were 2 WW paper drives, mothers throwing cards out...plus almost 100 years of fires, water damage, etc...i'd say it is totally realiztic that there are only 200, 300, 400 etc, of these cards left. |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
Michael, |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
delete |
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
deleted because it was a response to dave's deleted message... |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
Yeah...I saw that...thats why I changed my statement. Was arguing with myself. |
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
dave- you're just lookin' to pick a fight... |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
Your right..I am looking for a fight. And I'm scared of my wife. |
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T206 question
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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T206 question
Posted By: MVSNYC
i see a pattern here... |
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T206 question
Posted By: CN
Guys thanks for the estimates.CN |
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T206 question
Posted By: Scot Reader
Hi Dave F., |
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T206 question
Posted By: J Hull
The Uzit lots in last spring's REA sale had 33 cards. They were a group that had been assembled by the consignor's grandfather, if I remember correctly. I spoke to Rob Lifson about them at the time and he told me that the consignor's grandfather had lived in a poor, mostly immigrant neighborhood in New York City when the cards were collected. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Uzit cigarettes were strictly limited to NYC in 1911, or alternatively, that packs of them that held T206s were only sold there. Given the very brief time period that cards were included with Uzits, it seems likely that there couldn't have been a whole lot of geographical dispersal. |
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T206 question
Posted By: Dave F
Very interesting. Any thoughts on why so few would remain today? Could it be Uzits were an off brand cigarette that didn't sell much? Many of the packs may have not been sold and at that point destroyed? |
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T206 question
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The 30 years I've been collecting as a grown-up, I have seen or know of approx. 100 near complete T206 |
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T206 question
Posted By: Scot Reader
Dave F., |
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