scam alert: fake psa cards from ebay seller "cardregistry"

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

This is pretty damned scary.

I'm sure this is going to be a really stupid question but, does a low end t206 collector (PSA1-4) have to worry about this?

Not exactly high end items but there's still money to be made there right? Again apologies for the dumb question but I'm being serious.

Josh, very unlikely in my opinion. Not cost effective for the scammers. You could be dealing with some minor improvements by the more usual card doctor crowd, but not this stuff. Even at that pretty unlikely I would think.

[begsu1013]

have seen a few goudys in fake holders in the psa 4 - 5 range....

but I do feel bad for this guy.

it's apparent that they were the middle men in all of this.

ebays says they are officially off the hook as its been 30 days,

but as for who ends up holding the bag...

is it paypal or them?

feel really bad if it's them....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

have seen a few goudys in fake holders in the psa 4 - 5 range....

but I do feel bad for this guy.

it's apparent that they were the middle men in all of this.

ebays says they are officially off the hook as its been 30 days,

but as for who ends up holding the bag...

is it paypal or them?

feel really bad if it's them....

If the guy was selling them sight unseen that should have been a major red flag. Not to mention wrong. See past threads on (ironically) Where They Ain't.

[begsu1013]

exactly, peter.

as soon as he told me that he never had them, i knew the rest were fake immediately.

I tried to convey that to him, but it was only met w/ insults, curse words and threats from him.

he did apologize today when he found out 4 other cards were fakes.

his wife is not happy.

[Tennis13]

Stupid question, but the casino industry is able to make "money" with chips that are basically counterfeit proof. The diamond industry engraves serial numbers on the diamonds. Is there not a better way? Like microchipping a case with the card? I mean, if I can find my iPad anywhere in the world, or scan a lost puppy to locate its home, can an industry leader not microchip the holder so it can be verified immediately? Like a digital fingerprint of some sort? Put this in their "premium pricing" grading model, and they increase profit margins overnight, no?

Obviously counterfeiters will be on the forefront, but doesnt a hologram and a sonic seal --whatever that is-- seem sorta 90s nostalgic?

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by Tennis13

but doesnt a hologram and a sonic seal --whatever that is-- seem sorta 90s nostalgic?

now that you put it so bluntly...it sure does.

especially the hologram part.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Josh, very unlikely in my opinion. Not cost effective for the scammers. You could be dealing with some minor improvements by the more usual card doctor crowd, but not this stuff. Even at that pretty unlikely I would think.

That's pretty good then. Glad to hear that it is unlikely that someone would go to the lengths to do that to those cards.

I guess I can breathe a little easier