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Old 12-09-2013, 04:25 PM
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I just picked up this cool sign to go with my colgan collection.
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While a neat item I don’t believe those Turkish Trophies items were ever issued with baseball subjects and are later fantasy creations made by dealers or collectors put on non-sports displays. I have never seen one with baseball players that looks right.

In the above example you can clearly see where another leather was removed and a different shaped leather was put in its place, also the T3 replaced Hamilton King girl cabinets and most likely the S81 was added to replace a flag silk. I’ve had a few long discussions with long time hobby dealers and all have agreed or said the same thing…that these are most likely not original period as issued items.

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Old 12-09-2013, 05:36 PM
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While a neat item I donít believe those Turkish Trophies items were ever issued with baseball subjects and are later fantasy creations made by dealers or collectors put on non-sports displays. I have never seen one with baseball players that looks right.

In the above example you can clearly see where another leather was removed and a different shaped leather was put in its place, also the T3 replaced Hamilton King girl cabinets and most likely the S81 was added to replace a flag silk. Iíve had a few long discussions with long time hobby dealers and all have agreed or said the same thingÖthat these are most likely not original period as issued items.

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Interesting point, and I clearly see what you are referring to.

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A pair of Ramly Notepads, the one on the left predates the baseball cards.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:16 PM
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Jon, Here is mine that I bought from a fellow collector.



I really think these baseball ones were either found empty due to time and damage and baseball issues were added in the thought that they may have been issued like that. Or they were found and the Non-Sports items were removed and baseball added in an order to make the item more valuable.

Another interesting note is on all of these that I have seen the cabinet card items (T7-6ís) are not production T7ís they are a thin piece of the T7 art placed on a thicker piece of paper sort a mock version of the later production T7ís.



My guess and this is purely an educated guess is that when these store display pieces were created they had not begun production of the T7-6ís (Bathing & Athletic Girls). All that I have seen that seem to be period feature T7-6 images. These if you follow the redemption coupons were issued around 1913 well after T3ís. So think these store displays were towards the tail end after T3ís etc.

I really think that all you are buying when it comes to these baseball versions are fantasy pieces and one should value them as a destroyed non-sport piece with glued S81, T3 and L1ís attached so the total value should be that nothing more. I also think Legendary did a really crappy job of calling this item out as vintage last I checked they werenít using clear plastic corner mounts in the 1900ís at the very least they didnít even mention that.

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Always liked this photo for the advertising.
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