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Old 12-31-2017, 03:14 PM
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Default Holy Grail of 19th Century Baseball Memorabilia

In the past we've had discussions on the card side as to what we considered the Holy Grail of 19th century baseball cards. I don't think this topic has ever been discussed on the memorabilia side and is probably much more difficult to answer. Is it a trophy bat, trophy ball, photograph, uniform or something else?
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Old 12-31-2017, 03:19 PM
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Just to get the ball rolling, one of mine is the mammoth plate photo of the 1860 Brooklyn Excelsiors that resides in the Spalding Collection. I guess the reason it is still there is that it is too big to steal. But I've seen it a number of times in person and it is truly awe inspiring.

I probably could come up with a few others, but that photo suffices.
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:29 PM
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Great question, Gary, and one I'm sure that can/will be debated to no end.

That being said, the items that always come to mind for me are the uniform buttons from the original Kinckerbocker Base Ball Club uniform of Lucius "Doc" Adams...the true father of baseball.

These spectacular items are still, thankfully, in the possession of the Adams family and I know that their caretaker couldn't be more protective of them or aware of their historical value.

So, my nod my go to these priceless buttons...the only surviving pieces of uniform from the original Knickerbocker Base Ball Club.

They can be seen here...
http://docadamsbaseball.org/photo-ga...iform-buttons/

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I would like to nominate the Rules of Base Ball manuscript, also related to Doc Adams that was recently auctioned.
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Old 12-31-2017, 05:07 PM
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Gary thatís a great question that would be difficult to answer with so many incredible historical items to choose from. Especially difficult compared to cards that multiples exist of what are considered grails. Being a Kansas collector the one item to me that I would consider our grail is the oldest known piece. Itís an 1867 trophy baseball with case. Simply an amazing item to me.
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The San Francisco Giants didn't exist in the 19th century.....ergo, there is no 19th century Holy Grail.
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I don't know nearly as much about 19th century as many of you, but are there any King Kelly game used items known?
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I would think any game used or items from the cincinnati red stockings would hold significant value and history
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My nomination was the Laws of Base Ball manuscript documents, but since the sold for an amount beyond the reach of many of us, I am going to second the 1869-70 Red Stockings post as my favorite. It is not game used but it is a cdv of Cal Mcvey in his Cincinnati uniform, just to have an illustration.
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The San Francisco Giants didn't exist in the 19th century.....ergo, there is no 19th century Holy Grail.
Sure they did...
The club began in the NL as the New York Gothams in the 1880s
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