cards of great historical figures

[G1911]

Victoria Louise, Prussian Princess. I think her biggest claim to fame is that her wedding was the last big gathering of the European royals before World War I broke out and the extended family was just never the same again. This is her at, I believe, 17 in 1909, as the honorary colonel of the II Life Hussars. This card hit my primary points for collecting historical images; it has 1) a cool horse and 2) a cool military hat.

[Arazi4442]

Got a good size order back from PSA with some fun non sport….(sorry the pics are upside down but you get the point)

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by G1911

The Kaiser.

Also "The Kaiser".


Sorry, couldn't resist.

[G1911]

Ha, yours is a lot better than mine!

[G1911]

**trigger warning**

Historical figures. Great is up to you.

Some group (or person) operating under the name "Fascinating Cards" has put out a couple nonpartisan sets of Congress cards now. I unironically love this; we don't get many history cards and while I'd rather have the Continental Congress, I'll settle for anything of historical significance. I'm not sure it will last, as the people who care enough about government, politics or history to collect Congress cards are the type of people who will mostly be upset over one half of the cards or the other. I ended up getting a whole case for very little and cracked the first box. Maybe the next one will have an AOC Yard Sign Relic or a Lauren Boebert Chrome RC!

The freshmen members elected in 2020 have a "Rookie Card" at top, which I find amusing for some reason. Stock is slightly thin, but quality is surprisingly decent.

[Peter_Spaeth]

There is a 1975 style card from a few years back with all of the "Squad" on it. Awesome thing, honestly.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Well, perhaps she isn't quite a historical figure, but I've been looking for this her likely first card for so long that I am going to post it.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by G1911

**trigger warning**

Historical figures. Great is up to you.

Some group (or person) operating under the name "Fascinating Cards" has put out a couple nonpartisan sets of Congress cards now. I unironically love this; we don't get many history cards and while I'd rather have the Continental Congress, I'll settle for anything of historical significance. I'm not sure it will last, as the people who care enough about government, politics or history to collect Congress cards are the type of people who will mostly be upset over one half of the cards or the other. I ended up getting a whole case for very little and cracked the first box. Maybe the next one will have an AOC Yard Sign Relic or a Lauren Boebert Chrome RC!

The freshmen members elected in 2020 have a "Rookie Card" at top, which I find amusing for some reason. Stock is slightly thin, but quality is surprisingly decent.

Have you seen any of the "Politicards" playing card sets through the years? I used to pick up the 1971 set when I saw it, when I was going through my oddball non-sports phase years ago.

Not really flattering to any of the subjects in it, but pretty interesting. There's even a Norman Mailer card in it (Joker), I wonder if it's his first card.

They can be had on Ebay pretty cheap.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15509022991...Bk9SR8SPg4SdYQ

[G1911]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Have you seen any of the "Politicards" playing card sets through the years? I used to pick up the 1971 set when I saw it, when I was going through my oddball non-sports phase years ago.

Not really flattering to any of the subjects in it, but pretty interesting. There's even a Norman Mailer card in it (Joker), I wonder if it's his first card.

They can be had on Ebay pretty cheap.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15509022991...Bk9SR8SPg4SdYQ

I’ve got a couple of the sets, 71, 96, and I think 2008. I prefer realistic portrayals of people, but they’re pretty fun and cheap sets to fill in gaps. There is lots of presidential sets but outside the Oval Office, not a whole ton even for non-obscure and long-serving historically significant officials. Good fun to flesh out my history boxes with some of the oddballs and unusuals

[theshowandme]

If anyone has the Claude Monet card and is willing to move it, please DM me

[Peter_Spaeth]

Looked a long time for a presentable example of QE2's 1952 Felix Potin.

[G1911]

Two different backs of the tough short printed T70 triple folder, featuring Adams, Franklin, Jefferson and more in a card version of Trumbull's painting.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by G1911

Two different backs of the tough short printed T70 triple folder, featuring Adams, Franklin, Jefferson and more in a card version of Trumbull's painting.

That's a cool ass card. Didn't know there was a triple folder in that set. Don't think I've ever seen so much text on the back of a tobacco card.

What's the story behind that card, for us uninitiated with that set, if you don't mind...and how much bigger is it then a regular card from that set?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

That's a cool ass card. Didn't know there was a triple folder in that set. Don't think I've ever seen so much text on the back of a tobacco card.

What's the story behind that card, for us uninitiated with that set, if you don't mind...and how much bigger is it then a regular card from that set?

The story is largely a mystery. It's taller than a T202 triple folder. T70 has 25 cards that aren't the easiest but aren't really difficult (gallery is here, it's a set of great images in my opinion, heavily weighted to the Revolution: http://www.moviecard.com/gallery/tcards/t70.html). There are several backs, one of which is a physically smaller card and appears to have never produced the triple folder and so only has 24 cards.

The triple folder card here was certainly short printed. They are pretty rare to even find a separated panel from. It doesn't appear that, being triple the size of a normal card when printed, that it is 1/3 as common as a normal card just because it took up more space on the sheet. They're definitely tougher than that, I would guess they were probably printed on their own sheet to make the folding feature easier in production than mixing with non-folding normal cards. A normal card in the set is the size of one of the panels. So the card folded up could have fit just fine in a pack of cigarettes. It's unclear to me if they were ever issued in packs, or if they were distributed some other way as a kind of premium item.

It's one of those cards I really like independently from its set and wish was a super printed common, because it's a really cool and unique idea and execution. Off memory, I believe it's the only triple folder card from the ATC related sets outside of the T202 classic. I'd like a reprint for daily desk display

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by G1911

The story is largely a mystery. It's taller than a T202 triple folder. T70 has 25 cards that aren't the easiest but aren't really difficult (gallery is here, it's a set of great images in my opinion, heavily weighted to the Revolution: http://www.moviecard.com/gallery/tcards/t70.html). There are several backs, one of which is a physically smaller card and appears to have never produced the triple folder and so only has 24 cards.

The triple folder card here was certainly short printed. They are pretty rare to even find a separated panel from. It doesn't appear that, being triple the size of a normal card when printed, that it is 1/3 as common as a normal card just because it took up more space on the sheet. They're definitely tougher than that, I would guess they were probably printed on their own sheet to make the folding feature easier in production than mixing with non-folding normal cards. A normal card in the set is the size of one of the panels. So the card folded up could have fit just fine in a pack of cigarettes. It's unclear to me if they were ever issued in packs, or if they were distributed some other way as a kind of premium item.

It's one of those cards I really like independently from its set and wish was a super printed common, because it's a really cool and unique idea and execution. Off memory, I believe it's the only triple folder card from the ATC related sets outside of the T202 classic. I'd like a reprint for daily desk display

Thanks for the explanation. Makes me very curious how it was distributed. Chase card, or maybe even a sample given out to vendors who carried the brand.

[dnilgis]

Originally Posted by G1911

Two different backs of the tough short printed T70 triple folder, featuring Adams, Franklin, Jefferson and more in a card version of Trumbull's painting.

I love this card, I have a new goal.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by dnilgis

I love this card, I have a new goal.

The totally official rules are that you must come back and post a picture of yours when you get one

[dnilgis]

Originally Posted by G1911

The totally official rules are that you must come back and post a picture of yours when you get one

update* I can't believe I didn't think of this sooner, I do have this one to show off - I know it's not much of a looker, but until I happen on a nicer one...

[G1911]

Originally Posted by dnilgis

update* I can't believe I didn't think of this sooner, I do have this one to show off - I know it's not much of a looker, but until I happen on a nicer one...

Ha, perfect! I don’t think mine is any better. I love this set, any of its 3 renditions. I’ve got one card to go for the 1956 issue, been picking up a lot of the 52’s lately when I see ‘em for a buck or so. Really wish Topps would do a Heritage style history set in this design and ‘bring it back’.

[G1911]

McClellan might have been outmatched by Lee, but he also has a cool Goodwin card. This is the Red Magician parallel, serial numbered out of 14 copies. Need the other 7 now.

[G1911]

Historical figure, and legendary badass:

[G1911]

Historic Autographs has some pretty cool base sets of history cards that are available cheaply.

[Exhibitman]

Stollwercks German Composers

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

Cards I need but don’t know if any exist

Claude Monet, Richard Feynman, Audie Murphy

A board member sent me not one, but TWO Monet cards as a Christmas gift... He has refused payment for these, and I am absolutely blown away.

Thank you so much, Scott!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Now you need Renoir.

[Peter_Spaeth]

For purists who want first cards, even if not the greatest issue, the 1991 Face to Face game is a gold mine..

[G1911]

Just picked this one up for my E6 set, with the more common ad back.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Perhaps an unlikely place to find the first card of the famous newsman.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Three more and I'll have Seven Gables. Oh never mind.

[theshowandme]

anyone have some da Vinci for me before the 1952 Topps set?

[Bill77]

Fun story with these. So, I won the full 1937 Coronation set on September 10th. The seller shipped within a couple of days from Australia. Weeks go by and the cards never show up, until November 16th when the seller contacts me to tell me the cards came back to him. After verifying my address, he sends them back out. After a few weeks go by I give up hope of getting the cards for the 2nd time and decide that if they end up with the seller again, I will tell him to relist them. On December 23rd the cards finally arrived, a Christmas miracle.

[G1911]

Bought a full tan back set at a show today after my main local dealer offered me a happy price. Mao is the funniest card in the set, the depiction is so over the top it's hard to take serious. I'm not even sure what the red ape holding Aladdin's sword has to do with the propaganda of Mao here. It's a pretty popular card, probably for the absurdity of it. Usually only beaters go under $50. The yellow lines are regularly recurring in those two spots.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Mao is a similar color to the Wicked Witch, yes? I think the animal is just symbolic of violence and bloody aggression, but I dunno. As you say, an absurd card.

[G1911]

Eisenhower is a little less absurd, with the propaganda restricted to the background, where the threat of a red world from the communist takeover is literally depicted. Makes more sense than arab-sword wielding apes.

MacArthur is a normal card on the front. I love the backs, with state propaganda boiled down to a very young target audience. "The United Nations pitched in to help the South Koreans, like your dad would help the folks next door if some bad men were beating them up."

[Peter_Spaeth]

Well, there is that burning tank.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well, there is that burning tank.

Seems like a normal background picture to have for a General in the era of the tank, picturing a battle scene.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Seems like a normal background picture to have for a General in the era of the tank, picturing a battle scene.

In full dress uniform, a few feet away, casually giving a salute?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In full dress uniform, a few feet away, casually giving a salute?

Battle scenes as backdrops for portraits of generals have been used many times. Many, many cards use the portrait + image related to what they are famous for in the background format. Look N See, T68, T118, on and on and on and on. This isn’t an unusual or unique type of card. That’s all I said.

I could say the sky is blue and someone would try to argue it here lol.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Here's a MacArthur with a different sort of background.

[anchorednw]

Just begun dabbling in non-sports cards and these were my first two pickups.

[Peter_Spaeth]

At last, a Brando "rookie"

[Arazi4442]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

anyone have some da Vinci for me before the 1952 Topps set?

Here’s a pre-1900 da Vinci from the German Stollwerck ser, along with Michaelangelo.

(Oh, and sorry for bidding you up on the Brando, Peter)

[G1911]

History T cards are a lot cheaper than athletes. These are T175's, cut from the packaging of the cigarettes in between the 2 great tobacco card periods. Fitzhugh Lee was the nephew of R.E. Lee, and lived a fascinating life in his own right. Lodge was one of the more significant figures in the senate for decades. Sampson and Schley appeared in T68, and Schley in T118 as an arctic explorer for his relief expeditions as well. Admiral Schlei of the baseball issues received his nickname from this Schley. Chang is a clue that the "Heroes of the Spanish War" title this set goes by today is not exactly correct. Some of the subjects seem to be from the Boxer Rebellion. Some of the cards have commas after their names, but no subsequent title listed. Oops.

[jason.1969]

Since the thread began with Einstein I’ll add his 1939 Palestinian issue. Part of a complete “History of the Jewish People” set.

[Peter_Spaeth]

French postcard of Bob Dylan from the 60s, as the image is the same as his known "rookie" cards from 1965, I would guess this is from 65 as well.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Debatable whether this is a "card" I suppose, it's an educational flash card, but I believe this is the first US issue of JFK, from 1962.

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Debatable whether this is a "card" I suppose, it's an educational flash card, but I believe this is the first US issue of JFK, from 1962.

Ed-U Cards had a boxed set of Kennedy cards in 1961.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by sthoemke

Ed-U Cards had a boxed set of Kennedy cards in 1961.

Will I be able to find one do you think?

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Will I be able to find one do you think?

Not too rare. There are a few on ebay in the $50-60 range.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Will I be able to find one do you think?

we get them from time to time. Our next non-sport is in June.

https://thecollectorconnection.com/b...x?itemid=21970