Ruth issue to buy with a budget of $1500 (seeking experienced advice)

[ullmandds]

beckett says so...you take a pill.

[conor912]

Just 'cuz it's awesome.

Barnstorming, 1927

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

beckett says so...you take a pill.

I'm not much of a medication fellow, but if there were a pill I could take to inexpensively land a 1933 Goudey of Ruth, Rookie or No, I might just make a point to pop a couple down the gullet.

Brian

[doug.goodman]

Blum's

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rgpete

1928 Harrington's Babe Ruth can be found at a reasonable price

Reasonable but it's been 5+ yrs since those were in the 1500 range from what I recall. I think you would have to add 500+ to the budget today. Still great cards and a great value though.

Here is a w626 of a Ruth pose that has never been seen yet as a card. It was under 500 bucks...

[drcy]

I like the Senellas. They're nice looking cards and an affordable price.

[brianp-beme]

As packs previously mentioned foreign (Canadian) is not a bad way to go. Here is a 1934 World Wide Gum with great eye appeal on the front and a badly stained and slightly damaged back that went for $1600 last month. Some day collectors will finally realize that the World Wide Gum cards are a lot harder to come by and feature the same dang classic images as seen on the Goudey cards.

Brian

[packs]

I've always been baffled by the price difference between the Goudey and WWG. This hobby lives and dies for rarity and variance but for some reason there isn't much interest in the rarity or variance of the WWG set.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by packs

I've always been baffled by the price difference between the Goudey and WWG. This hobby lives and dies for rarity and variance but for some reason there isn't much interest in the rarity or variance of the WWG set.

I personally think it's because there is still something "foreign" about the WWG. They are definitely great cards. But the French writing makes it seem a little less "authentically American". And if I'm going to shell out over $1000 for a baseball card, I think it might bug me a little bit that it still seems like a foreign issue.

I definitely think that's the reason the Sanella cards are still relatively cheap...the German writing on the back makes them feel like less of a standard baseball card. Because the image on those is great.

[packs]

I think the 1933 WWG has a variant with an English only back.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

I think the 1933 WWG has a variant with an English only back.

Yes, it is called Goudey R319
This was posted in another thread but it fits the 1500 dollar range. From our BST a year or so ago...and it has a couple other no names in it too.

[packs]

I thought I remember there being an English only version of the 33 WWG cards. Maybe not.

Here you go: http://candimanauctions.com/moe_berg...was-lot10.aspx

[jbl79]

Here's an example of an english only back on the WWG Ruth...

[packs]

Look at that.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jbl79

Here's an example of an english only back on the WWG Ruth...

Never seen that. Thanks. Learn something new everyday.

[conor912]

Woah. I’ve never seen that either. Do English WWG carry a premium over the French?

[brianp-beme]

The W517 set has the choice of portrait and throwing pose cards, and both are attractive. W517 cards were issued in a strip, but they do have nice photos and my belief is that someday the Ruth cards will command a fair amount more because of the appealing images. I have always liked overall look of the throwing pose, partly because of the stadium background.

Brian (cards not mine)

[smrtn240]

W517 portrait is my # 1 choice I think, it just has that distinctive characteristic to it, thanks for everyone's advice and interest on this topic- shawn

[drcy]

I won't get into a debate if it counts as a baseball card, but the Babe Ruth (with Harold Lloyd) Speedy postcard is a good pick

Available for $1750 if you want some real bang for your buck

[Exhibitman]

A decent Exhibit, Ruth candy or Fro Joy would be the way to go if you want the most value in a traditionally sized item. The 1933 Goudey premium is great but it is big.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

A decent Exhibit, Ruth candy or Fro Joy would be the way to go if you want the most value in a traditionally sized item. The 1933 Goudey premium is great but it is big.

Since this thread started I had these cards in mind. Having had all 3 in the past, and at least one now, I like them.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by conor912

Woah. I’ve never seen that either. Do English WWG carry a premium over the French?

The "English Only" versions of the 1933 WWG Ice Kings (hockey) issue certainly carry a premium, so by extension the same theory might apply.

I believe the higher pricing is because there are theoretically less of them, and not simply because they are English only.

[Leon]

M101-7 Sporting News Supplements don't quite fit the definition of a card but are still a great, period, Ruth image and can be had cheaper than almost any of the other issues.

[packs]

Originally Posted by packs

I thought I remember there being an English only version of the 33 WWG cards. Maybe not.

Here you go: http://candimanauctions.com/moe_berg...was-lot10.aspx

I thought of this thread today while I was checking out the 2020 Topps Heritage checklist. The 2020 set is going to have French variation cards as short prints.