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Old 04-29-2008, 06:13 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

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You tell 'em Dan!

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I really find this disturbing if the original poster is telling the truth (and my gut feeling is that he is telling the truth).

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Chuck, whether or not PCG is a legit company there is little doubt to me that the Mantle card is terribly misgraded. It is off center, faded and has soft corners. There is no way it is NM+. If they can't properly grade such a high profile card I would not trust them.

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Posted By: Matt R

Agreed Howard, it's definitely not near mint. My question would be whether or not it's authentic. Something is shouting counterfeit at me.

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Posted By: leon

I tend to agree with you in hindsight. This anonymous post really shouldn't have been let go. The rule is there for a reason, as the other ones pertaining to anonymity, and they are tried and true and work. Once the genie is out of the bottle it's hard to put him back in. I was trying to think of a reason when even a dealer would want to remain anonymous. I guess it could be that there are repercussions for doing so ie... harsher grades if more cards were sent in. Since "Freddie" mentioned both PSA and SGC I didn't really think it was a favoritism thing. In hindsight it shouldn't have been let go though.....I agree too...if you don't like a grading company, or grading in general, then don't do it...regards

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Posted By: Eric Brehm

I agree with Joe D. and others who see third party grading, on balance, as a benefit to the hobby. I re-entered the hobby in 2006, after a 20 year hiatus, and when I saw that cards were now being graded and encapsulated by professional specialists, I immediately accepted it as a good method to significantly reduce the uncertainty associated with buying and selling, such as we dealt with in the old days, when verbal condition descriptions were all over the map. If consistency of communication about condition is the goal, it certainly seems better to me than it used to be, albeit imperfect.

I also see the horror stories about particular graded cards, and understand the concerns about huge differences in market value associated with inherently subjective evaluations of card condition. For my part, I collect 1933 Goudeys in high grade, mostly PSA 8, but have never purchased a PSA 9, because I don't think the difference in price vs. quality is cost effective in that case. On the other hand, I do buy PSA 9's in post-war issues, because they are relatively plentiful and generally are 'the best of the best'. But I look at them very carefully. I would prefer to have a PSA 7 or 8 with better eye appeal, than a card that happens to meet the technical requirements for PSA 9 (or maybe just got lucky in the grading house one day), not to mention saving a large amount of money in the bargain.

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Posted By: Steve

I wonder why "Freddie" did not mention GAI?


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Posted By: Joseph Shirley

I can't help but think about how all these crack outs overinflate the pop reports at PSA. There are now 2 PSA 5's that don't exist.

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I can't help but think how anyone here believed this crap. lol

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Posted By: Paul S

Well, Elton John told me that Roger Daltry confirmed Freddy Mercury's story.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Freddy announced he wished to remain anonymous "for good reason." Does PSA send out hit teams to silence its critics?

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I wonder why "Freddie" did not mention GAI?


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Steve, are you implying something? LOL!


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Posted By: JK

"I was trying to think of a reason when even a dealer would want to remain anonymous."

Perhaps he doesnt want anyone to mention that this card was deemed trimmed when he later sells it as a psa 5 and fails to disclose the card's history.

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Posted By: Brad L.

Geez, I would have at least stopped at the 2nd five to recoup some of my grading fees. Why would you send the 5 back a second time knowing that it could drop in grade again??? No offense, but that seems really stupid from here.

*edited to add: And that sure doesn't seem like the actions of a dealer, lol.

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I wonder why "Freddie" did not mention GAI?


Steve


Steve, are you implying something? LOL!


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I'll be the first to shout "Bingo!!"

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What is a hit team?

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Posted By: Tim Kinserlow

Steve has a point. If a person really thinks about it, GAI might not have been mentioned for a good reason.

There is a person on this forum making new id's on other forums as well. He likes playing the "3rd party", to see how far he can take it. Steve knows exactly what I mean. We caught the guy on another forum trying to come back under a new identity, too. He's not as smart as he thinks he is.

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If you are referring to me, then you are mistaken.

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