Was I Shilled??

[calvindog]

And that's based on pure guesswork, not facts. If you simply removed the shill bidding beneath ceiling bids in auction house auctions the final hammer prices would have been lower on hundreds of cards over the years.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

And that's based on pure guesswork, not facts. If you simply removed the shill bidding beneath ceiling bids in auction house auctions the final hammer prices would have been lower on hundreds of cards over the years.

As they say in ECON 101, "Assume a can opener."

[calvindog]

Another meaningless comment. Are you capable of embarrassment?

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Another meaningless comment. Are you capable of embarrassment?

The point is there will never be a world without shilling, so to explain what the world would look like in such an alternate universe will always be "pure guesswork, not fact." All economic theory is subject to various "assumptions" -- even can openers. If you haven't heard the joke, no matter. I just explained the premise.

Maybe if I was always charged with only making a jury of my peers have a reasonable doubt, i would reduce my arguments like you do. Let's sum up the bidding -- my collection sucks, I am poor. Shilling is fraud, and fraud is bad. All further debate is wrong and makes me an embarassment.

You do great work convincing people who already agree with you. The people who disagree with you aren't worth your very expensive time.

[calvindog]

I'm not sure why you think it's interesting being a contrarian with no intelligent input -- just bizarre commentary and claims that fraud in our hobby is not a big deal, that you are above such meaningless matters like fraud because of your brilliant bidding strategies. And then you put on your tattered smoking jacket and pat yourself on the back even though everyone is laughing at you.

I won't address your comments about my career or skills because as we both know if I objectively compared my accomplishments to yours you'd come out looking as foolish as a guy who thinks that prices of cards would go up if shill bidding was eliminated.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I'm not sure why you think it's interesting being a contrarian with no intelligent input -- just bizarre commentary and claims that fraud in our hobby is not a big deal, that you are above such meaningless matters like fraud because of your brilliant bidding strategies. And then you put on your tattered smoking jacket and pat yourself on the back even though everyone is laughing at you.

I won't address your comments about my career or skills because as we both know if I objectively compared my accomplishments to yours you'd come out looking as foolish as a guy who thinks that prices of cards would go up if shill bidding was eliminated.

Do you know how hard it is to argue with you without poking fun at all of the news articles about you? I mean, I'm really trying not to reference your wikipedia page.

[calvindog]

It's a wikipedia page which has been edited about 1000000 times by every sort of maniac in the world -- like you. And yet you'd 'reference' it? Really?

Do you know how easy it is to argue with a nonentity like yourself? I mean, really?