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shilling is a strong word...the seller had a "hidden reserve" placed.
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I have never cared about shilling because I have never paid a certain price for something that I wasn't comfortable paying. Shilling = hidden reserve. Sneaky and illegal and fraudulent? Yes. But I try to not get upset by it.
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Based on the auctions they've had ended in the past week and the bidding history of that bidder. It looks like most of those other bids were for "Buy It Nows".
Seems odd to jump to the conclusion of shilling based on a single auction, just because it's a new bidder. I always thought it strange the mentality that everybody who bids in Ebay auctions is going to evenly spread out their bids between multiple sellers, within a 30 day window. Last edited by D. Bergin; 04-19-2012 at 01:07 PM. Reason: typo |
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I don't think you were shilled. It looks like the auction was at less than $500 as it wound down and 5 or 6 bidders had snipe bids which all kicked in at once, within a second or two of each other, which drove the price up. I don't see the "shilling" pattern I have seen with other cards.
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Sure looks funny to me---Underbidder has 0 feedback and if he didnt bid, you would have won the auction for under $1500 instead of $2175---I would watch the underbidder and see what he bids on next---but too late now on this auction---Still a nice piece. Don
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The final 6 bids were snipes placed in the last 10 seconds of the auction by different bidders. There's no telling how many snipes in that time span didn't even register because of the leap in bidding and the timing of the snipes. |
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Blatant shill, only an idiot can't see that. 0% bidder with 100% of the time bidding with just that seller. Blatant shill. No newbe registers and then bids 19 times with just one seller on different items.
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Well I guess I'm an idiot. Thanks man. Looks like they were shilling "Buy It Now" auctions. Guess the shiller must be even stupider then me. |
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I'm actually leaning towards not shill... Why would someone snipe a shill bid? Doesn't really make sense..
Also I believe dave is right about all the BIN's, Why would he purchase his own BINs? That just adds suspicion I think. His second bid of 461 is odd, what's the point of shilling $10 on a lot like this, $2150 is also a weird shill number. I'd be more suspicious if his final bid was 2k. $2150 seem more like a number from a guy that wants to pay a max of 2k but doesn't want to lose the lot over an extra hundred. |
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Thanks Dan, appreciate the kind words.... |
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