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Old 06-10-2010, 10:14 AM
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Mordecai Peter Centennial Three Finger Brown.

The name alone sets him apart.

At his peak from 1906-1909, he was one of the best, if not the best, pitcher in baseball.

He owned the head to head match ups with Christy Mathewson. There's a newspaper article quote in Crazy '08 that sums it up. "The only way the Giants could beat the Cubs is if they find a pitcher with two fingers" (paraphrase)


He seems like a humble down to earth regular guy. Definitely one of the most underrated HOFers in my opinion.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:33 AM
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My favorite all time pre-war ballplayer is Rube Waddell.

Besides being one of, if not the most eccentric figure of his day, he was also one of the best pitchers of all time.
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:37 PM
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My favorite all time pre-war ballplayer is Rube Waddell.

Besides being one of, if not the most eccentric figure of his day, he was also one of the best pitchers of all time.
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"He began that year (1903) sleeping in a firehouse in Cadmen, New Jersey and ended it tending bar in a saloon in Wheeling, West Virginia. In between those events he won 22 games for the Philadelphia Athletics, played left end for the Business Men's Rugby Football Club of Grand Rapids, Michigan, toured the nation in a melodrama called The Stain of Guilt, courted, married and became separated from May Wynne Skinner of Lynn, Massachusetts, saved a woman from drowning, accidentally shot a friend through the hand, and was bitten by a lion." -baseball historian Lee Allen
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Good choices all. I am a Laughing Larry Doyle guy myself, secondbaseman for the Giants. Just an interesting guy and one who history for some fickle reason diminished. Very good leader, recognized as a superstar during his day. Late in life contracted TB and entered a sanitorium. He was the last person to move out once an effective treatment had been developed. Lived 20 years after that.
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:05 PM
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Wow nice Cobby. I have never seen that card before.

Troey - Cobb would have to be my favorite. I wonder what made the guy tick....some of the stories I've read about him make him a one-of-a-kind odd ball. I've walked the same streets Cobb walked in downtown Detroit past some of his favorite hang outs and often wondered what motivated the guy.

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Napoleon Lajoie. Aside from being underrated because of Cobb's presence he was a dignified, classy player and they named the team after him for Christ's sake!
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Napoleon Lajoie. Aside from being underrated because of Cobb's presence he was a dignified, classy player and they named the team after him for Christ's sake!
I would have guessed Jackson for you lol.
Mine is probably Wagner -- no less an authority than Sam Crawford said he was even better than Cobb.
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Elmer Miller because he was a distant relative and Team mate at Ruth's in the 1921 World Series
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I would have guessed Jackson for you lol.
Mine is probably Wagner -- no less an authority than Sam Crawford said he was even better than Cobb.
. In regards to Crawford's statement about Wagner, Crawford notoriously HATED Cobb so I would take his statement with a grain of salt. Cobb is probably the second greatest player ever after Babe. I'd put Wagner in the top 10 with the likes of Hornsby, Gehrig and others.
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Napoleon Lajoie. Aside from being underrated because of Cobb's presence he was a dignified, classy player and they named the team after him for Christ's sake!
Brett,

Just today I was reading Sports Illustrated, and with Ken Griffey Jr.'s retirement, the magazine assembled its all-time team of Hall of Famers who retired without a World Series ring. Right away I looked at the second base spot, expecting to see Lajoie. Of course SI went with Ryne Sandberg. I laughed.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:24 PM
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Just today I was reading Sports Illustrated, and with Ken Griffey Jr.'s retirement, the magazine assembled its all-time team of Hall of Famers who retired without a World Series ring. Right away I looked at the second base spot, expecting to see Lajoie. Of course SI went with Ryne Sandberg. I laughed.
What a joke. Sandberg is SO overrated it's ridiculous... Good player, but saying he's better than Lajoie is literally like saying Patrick Ewing was better than Chamberlain. Not even in the same class.
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I like these 2

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I would have to go with Buck Weaver, mostly because of the unknown and would have like to see numbers from him after 1919. He was a great all around player from what I read and he has some great history of just the average guy getting by in the majors.

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i,too, have been drawn to the notorious Buck Weaver lately.
i'm even having the Thompson Type 1 of weaver, sliding by Art Fletcher
in game 3 of the 1917 World Series, framed for a central place in my office.
i guess he's wooing me like the Joe Jackson has always done.

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One of the fastest players of the era and arguably the best outfielder (Fred Lieb said he made the best catch he ever saw). A nice guy and a hero (saved 5 kids in a 1921 fire). Also played on the Phils only WS team until 1950. Suffered with the nickname Dode (meaning not too bright). Had to name my dog after him.
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Old 06-12-2010, 06:04 AM
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Detroit's Genius in Spikes. Aside from his obvious talent on the diamond, his unique personality and scorching ambition has always intrigued me. Besides, I grew up in Detroit and spent many an hour gazing over the same emerald green field on which he starred.
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Mordecai Peter Centennial Three Finger Brown.

The name alone sets him apart.

At his peak from 1906-1909, he was one of the best, if not the best, pitcher in baseball.

He owned the head to head match ups with Christy Mathewson. There's a newspaper article quote in Crazy '08 that sums it up. "The only way the Giants could beat the Cubs is if they find a pitcher with two fingers" (paraphrase)


He seems like a humble down to earth regular guy. Definitely one of the most underrated HOFers in my opinion.
Don, good choice.

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Hughie Jennings, very sad end to his life. Crazy on the field with his poses captured in history



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I know this might be a little clicheish but even considering just as a pitcher alone got to give the nod to George Herman Ruth.
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Default Jeff, tremendous degree of inferred self-awareness suggested here...?

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