Memory Lane Gehrig expectation vs reality

[SAllen2556]

Originally Posted by calvindog

This was like a 2K card with an obviously bad scan, not a major sale. I have no doubt ML would have refunded the money once they got the card and confirmed the error/bad scan, regardless of Travis bringing it up here, as the mistake was that clear.

You guys can't really think that ML is in the business of ripping people off for a thousand or two thousand bucks?

If anything, and I don't speak for ML -- they surely could have been pissed about this being outed before they were given the chance to rectify it. I don't blame Travis for doing so, it's a hobby issue and he's certainly allowed. But the negative backlash occurred before they had the chance to make things right and they're not the auction house known for misleading scans. They could be a bit pissed.

No auction house is perfect and shit can happen with so many lots. In this hobby, if an error is fixed painlessly, we should celebrate it.

I can believe that an auction house has an unwritten rule that the scans for all cards will tend to show the cards in the best light possible, especially if the written description is accurate. If called out on a bad scan, said auction house will refund the customer immediately, no questions asked. It seems like a worthwhile risk that would likely result in thousands of dollars of extra revenue per auction.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

I can believe that an auction house has an unwritten rule that the scans for all cards will tend to show the cards in the best light possible, especially if the written description is accurate. If called out on a bad scan, said auction house will refund the customer immediately, no questions asked. It seems like a worthwhile risk that would likely result in thousands of dollars of extra revenue per auction.

But has there been any other claim that ML provided bad scans? I've been buying cards from auction houses for decades now and I've never had that issue with ML. Heritage is notorious for using scans that cover up flaws in cards as everyone knows (I know this from personal experience as well as the numerous collectors who have contacted me over the years with complaints and asked for legal advice). ML has had a myriad of other issues over the years, but bad scans -- at least to my knowledge -- has never been one of them. I could be wrong, but I think I would have heard about this issue before this thread.

[Republicaninmass]

I'm paying devils attorney..ahem advocate. Card was /is psa 1. It's hard to cheat and honest man. If it looked like a 3 candidate and made you think "hmm", remember all eyes are watching, including those running the auction. Nobody is letting that thing go.

[tjisonline]

This PSA 1 1933 Goudey Lou Gehrig (cert 78153729) lot result went as expected (meaning what happens when this card was properly photographed and described).

Jan 13th auction. 14 bids. Final price w/ fees = $3763.20

May 4th auction. 11 bids. Final price w/ fees = $2546.40

About -32% price diff.


We in the hobby should continue to demand auction houses use proper descriptions and raw images and not enhanced w/ photo editing software. This would benefit everyone.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by tjisonline

This PSA 1 1933 Goudey Lou Gehrig (cert 78153729) lot result went as expected (meaning what happens when this card was properly photographed and described).

Jan 13th auction. 14 bids. Final price w/ fees = $3763.20

May 4th auction. 11 bids. Final price w/ fees = $2546.40

About -32% price diff.


We in the hobby should continue to demand auction houses use proper descriptions and raw images and not enhanced w/ photo editing software. This would benefit everyone.

How soon until this card "pops" back up in a auction? Over under 3 months?

[tjisonline]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

How soon until this card "pops" back up in a auction? Over under 3 months?

good question. not sure it will though as the card is pretty much “poor" (1) no matter. Really bad creases like some of my worn pants but def has nice eye appeal. No idea but if it does surface at auction in a diff slab, will be quickly spotted.

i'm more worried about auction houses stop w/ the vague descriptions and enhanced images. i went through the latter w/ the 68 3-D Clemente search. Enough is enough.

[JollyElm]

Maybe the next auctioner should include a free bottle of "Kurt's" with it as an incentive for the winner to turn it into a thing of even greater beauty (translation: a higher grade number) for when it's his turn to inevitably auction it off. Highly doctored scans will no longer be necessary.