If You Collect Scorecards or Programs, Show 'em Here!

[jethrod3]

So many great posts recently! Love the old football and hockey too! I wish there was a "like" button I could push (maybe there is one that I haven't found on the site yet). I'd be hitting that "like" button frequently in this thread.

Thanks to all that have shared their unique finds!

[ledsters]

I was able to add another PCL San Diego Padres Scorecard to my collection. I really like the purple tint on this and that it is from Baseball’s Centennial.

1939 San Diego Padres Scorecard

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[WillowGrove]

Finally taking the time to jump into this great thread. I love scorecards and the research it sometimes takes to figure if anything of significance happened at the game.

Here's one I have scans of - it's from an American Association (Major league) game that took place June, 18, 1884 in Washington Park just a few blocks from where I used to live in Brooklyn. It captures a game against Toledo which included Moses Fleetwood Walker, (lesser) known to be the first Black player to play in the majors. I cannot find any other item, image, anything - that captures Fleetwood on the Toledo team as a major leaguer; the known items are from his college or local team days. Not in great shape but it exists!

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Finally taking the time to jump into this great thread. I love scorecards and the research it sometimes takes to figure if anything of significance happened at the game.

Here's one I have scans of - it's from an American Association (Major league) game that took place June, 18, 1884 in Washington Park just a few blocks from where I used to live in Brooklyn. It captures a game against Toledo which included Moses Fleetwood Walker, (lesser) known to be the first Black player to play in the majors. I cannot find any other item, image, anything - that captures Fleetwood on the Toledo team as a major leaguer; the known items are from his college or local team days. Not in great shape but it exists!

Peter,
Happy New Year!
Congrats & that is a great scorecard.
Moses Fleetwood Walker is obviously huge for baseball and Toledo history.
I live 20 minutes away from Toledo...
Very cool piece of history!

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Here's one I have scans of - it's from an American Association (Major league) game that took place June, 18, 1884 in Washington Park just a few blocks from where I used to live in Brooklyn. It captures a game against Toledo which included Moses Fleetwood Walker, (lesser) known to be the first Black player to play in the majors.

What an amazing scorecard, Peter! Thanks for sharing! I was born in Brooklyn and need to figure out where I lived relative to that ball park. Curious now!

[mikecala98]

Is 5th and 3rd the JJ Byrne Playground now?

[WhatsNext]

Correct, Washington Park actually still technically exists as a strip of turf next to the Old Stone House and JJ Byrne. Little league baseball and soccer are still played in it.

[jacksons]

Some beautiful programs here!

Love the graphics on this one. May 12, 1906 at Hilltop Park. Addie Joss leads Lajoie and the Naps over the Highlanders 2-0, pitching an 11 inning shutout.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by jacksons

Some beautiful programs here!

Love the graphics on this one. May 12, 1906 at Hilltop Park. Addie Joss leads Lajoie and the Naps over the Highlanders 2-0, pitching an 11 inning shutout.

SWEET scorebook! Do you mind showing the scorepage if it's been scored?
Congrats if you own this in your collection.
Very, very, cool!

[jacksons]

Thanks Scott, yes in my collection, and scored.

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

SWEET scorebook! Do you mind showing the scorepage if it's been scored?
Congrats if you own this in your collection.
Very, very, cool!

[jacksons]

Here's another one...August 1901 between N.Y. Giants and Brooklyn Superbas.

Second game of a doubleheader, Giants win 4-1 behind a CG (0 ER) by the rookie Mathewson.

[Flintboy]

Picked this up at a local show and have a few questions. I’m always looking to learn more about our hobby.

1. Is it more desirable for collectors to have it scored or unscored?
2. I tried looking at Baseball Reference for the exact game and couldn’t locate it. I’m guessing these were pre printed with an expected lineup and the scorecard was adjusted at first pitch?
3. I’m not looking to sell it, I just think it’s a cool piece with Mantle and Berra on it, but would like an idea of value.

Thanks all!

[jacksons]

****Correction - has to be a game in Washington - check those.***

Hi - did a quick look at the Senators schedule in 1954 and clicked on box scores for games against Yankees.

Sat, July 3 looks close:
https://www.baseball-almanac.com/box...d=195407030NYA

But you should check the ones after as well:

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/tea...p?y=1954&t=WS1

Could be this game too:
https://www.baseball-almanac.com/box...d=195407090WS1

Originally Posted by Flintboy

Picked this up at a local show and have a few questions. I’m always looking to learn more about our hobby.

1. Is it more desirable for collectors to have it scored or unscored?
2. I tried looking at Baseball Reference for the exact game and couldn’t locate it. I’m guessing these were pre printed with an expected lineup and the scorecard was adjusted at first pitch?
3. I’m not looking to sell it, I just think it’s a cool piece with Mantle and Berra on it, but would like an idea of value.

Thanks all!

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by jacksons

Here's another one...August 1901 between N.Y. Giants and Brooklyn Superbas.

Second game of a doubleheader, Giants win 4-1 behind a CG (0 ER) by the rookie Mathewson.

Wow!

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

Picked this up at a local show and have a few questions. I’m always looking to learn more about our hobby.

1. Is it more desirable for collectors to have it scored or unscored?
2. I tried looking at Baseball Reference for the exact game and couldn’t locate it. I’m guessing these were pre printed with an expected lineup and the scorecard was adjusted at first pitch?
3. I’m not looking to sell it, I just think it’s a cool piece with Mantle and Berra on it, but would like an idea of value.

Thanks all!

It's from the July 9-10-11 series.

Killebrew is on the Senators roster, he signed on June 19, 1954

Houk is on the Yankees roster, he was released on July 22, 1954

None of the lineups exactly match, but I would guess it's the July 10 game.

Thank you to Retrosheet for the info (which Baseball Reference uses for their site).

No opinion on value from me, I only collect scored programs and scorecards. If it is that game, some would claim that Whitey Ford got his second career save, a (stupid) stat that didn't exist yet. Bob Wiesler did get his second career win and his second career hit. Bunky Stewart got on base for the second time in his career.

Doug

[Flintboy]

Thank you for the info Doug, much appreciated.

[doug.goodman]

Longest game ever played at Dodgers Stadium.

May 24, 1973

Willie Davis got 6 hits for the Dodgers in a loss to the Mets.

Fully scored with a stub.

The legendary infield members Lopes-Russell-Cey each played the full game, with Bill Bucknor at first. Garvey pinch hit in the 15th.

[bigfanNY]

The First agame of the First Championship series of the BAA. Which after the merger became the first championship series of the NBA. Was a long time coming.

[71buc]

1947 Dinner program/menu to an event at the Penn Hotel to introduce the new ownership group of the Pittsburgh Pirates. This group was owned the 1971 and 1960 championship teams.

[Ozzy]

Since he played at the youngest player all time at the age of 14

Joe nuxhall
Bob Borkowski
Ted kluszewski
Perkowski
Rocky bridges
Adams
Smith autographs. Have all those samenomayers cards from 53 autos and picture to match. Scorecards included.


My pops was there that day at the game . Pretty cool for my little collection.

[Ozzy]

I should have did that on a pc instead of ohone . I'll redo

[bigfanNY]

Happy to revive this thread with my pick up of this 1915 Brooklyn vs Chicago Federal league program. The colors front and back are outstanding. And interior is filled with tons of ads and information. Looks like the game was June 28th and the Whales beat Brooklyn 10 to 5.. my favorite ad is for a Hires rootbeer contest. Promising a new 1915 Harley Davidson to whomever collects the most Hires bottle caps.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Happy to revive this thread with my pick up of this 1915 Brooklyn vs Chicago Federal league program. The colors front and back are outstanding.

Wow. Beautiful.

It reminds me of the 1915 St Louis Globe-Democrat Color Sport supplements, maybe the where the G-D got their design idea?

[bigfanNY]

Ok You piqued my interest...lol..please post a St.louis globe premium.

[doug.goodman]

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...democrat+louis

[bigfanNY]

Show off...lol

Thanks for sharing.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Show off...lol

Thanks for sharing.

Insert smiley face here.

Similar though, right?

[jerseygary]

I'm in the process of selling off some of my scorecard collection to clear space, and I thought I would share some of the more interesting ones.

This first one is a 1944 Puebla vs. Mexico City. In the mid-1940's the Mexican League was trying to become a third major league, and recruited countless Negro League stars such as Roy Campanella, Leon Day, Josh Gibson and Satchel Paige in addition to the best Cuban and Puerto Rican players. Backed by the millionaire importer/exporter Pasquel brothers, the Mexican League went over the top in 1946 when they lured away several Major League players like Max Lanier, Mickey Owen, Sal Maglie and Vern Stephens.

The cover of this 1944 scorecard has a great drawing of Mexico City's ace pitcher Leroy Matlock. Matlock was one of the starters for the great 1933-1936 Pittsburgh Crawfords team as well as the Homestead Grays and St. Louis Stars. Though he's forgotten today, he was named as one of the Negro Leagues' all-time best pitchers in 1954 Pittsburgh Courier's newspaper poll. Matlock went to Mexico in 1940 and played there for the next two seasons before retiring.

Among the stars playing in this 1944 game were Negro Leaguer's Wild Bill Wright, Theolic "Fireball" Smith and Hall of Famer Willie Wells along with Latin standouts Millito Navarro and Bobby Avila in just his second summer of pro ball.

You might recall Theolic "Fireball" Smith as the hero of the fun 1996 Mark Winegardner book "Veracruz Blues," a fictional retelling of the 1946 Mexican League season.

The original owner pasted in a box score of the game, which was won by Puebla 7-2.

The scorecard is printed on a rough, heavy cardstock. Front has some writing in pencil and the back has a bit of damage from where it was pasted in an album. I've only seen a handful of 1940's Mexican League scorecards and this is the only 1944 one I've come across. Rare? That's an understatement.

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[doug.goodman]

These ebay finds arrived in the mail today :

Koufax career win #16 on July 1, 1958 in St Louis. This is my 114th 1958 Dodgers scored game program, and my 267th Koufax appearance scored program (118th win)

Maris HR #3 in 1961, against the Angels in Anaheim on May 6. My 32nd Maris 1961 HR game, and 36th 1961 HR

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

These ebay finds arrived in the mail today :
Koufax career win #16 on July 1, 1958 in St Louis. This is my 114th 1958 Dodgers scored game program, and my 267th Koufax appearance scored program (118th win). Maris HR #3 in 1961, against the Angels in Anaheim on May 6. My 32nd Maris 1961 HR game, and 36th 1961 HR

Great scorecards Doug (even without the autographs)!!!

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by jethrod3

Great scorecards Doug (even without the autographs)!!!

Thanx, without the autographs would have saved me some money...

[doug.goodman]

In honor of Ohtani setting the all time record (10) for most consecutive games with an RBI for a Dodger player (in game #82 of his first season with them), here is game 8 in Roy Campanella's 9 game streak from 1955.

As a bonus, Tommy Lasorda pitched, making his 7th appearance of 8 in his career with the Dodgers.

[bigfanNY]

Dated May the 6th. 1876 The First season of the senior circuit.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Dated May the 6th. 1876 The First season of the senior circuit.

Nice one, Jonathan!

[DHogan]

This is the only program I own.

[Topnotchsy]

1945 Kent Parker All Stars with Bob Feller vs KC Royals with Satchel Paige. Jackie Robinson was also in the lineup, 4 weeks before he signed with the Dodgers.

Also includes a cool mention of Paige K'ing Ruth 3 times. No idea if that is historically accurate.

[jethrod3]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

1945 Kent Parker All Stars with Bob Feller vs KC Royals with Satchel Paige. Jackie Robinson was also in the lineup, 4 weeks before he signed with the Dodgers.

Also includes a cool mention of Paige K'ing Ruth 3 times. No idea if that is historically accurate.

That's a neat program, Jeff. I can't recall if the mentioning of Paige striking out Ruth is historically accurate, but of course their description behind the reason that Paige wasn't in the major leagues was spot on.

[Shoeless Moe]

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=233717

[ramram]

A little bit of a change here from baseball. Here's one of the earliest basketball scorecards.

Rob M

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[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=233717

Posted this on that thread as well...

I have a program from the same game which is scored,. If you look at the scorecard you can see that for many of the names, a different player was written above. This game took place on 10/24/1945, the day after Jackie signed with the Dodgers. He had flown to NY to sign the contract and therefore was not there for this game.

Both Paige and Feller pitched 6 innings, with Piage giving up 1 run and K'ing 7 and Feller giving up 0 and K'ing 14.

The game is detailed in "Satch, Dizzy and Rapid Robert" by Timothy Gay.

[bigfanNY]

Rob

VERY nice basketball program. Was there space for only one game to be scored or multiple games?
Jonathan

[ramram]

Jonathan,
There were multiple score sheets but only 3 or 4 filled out. One of the games included New Britain of which some claimed as world champs that year. Also one player by the name of Loomis was considered by some as inventing the dribble.
Rob

[doug.goodman]

I am VERY happy to add this wonderfully scored program from the last regular season game Sandy Koufax ever pitched to my collection.

October 2, 1966
Doubleheader game #2
Season win #27, career win #165
Season complete game #27, career complete game #137

Game #268 in my Koufax scored program collection, and still looking...

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I am VERY happy to add this wonderfully scored program from the last regular season game Sandy Koufax ever pitched to my collection.

October 2, 1966
Doubleheader game #2
Season win #27, career win #165
Season complete game #27, career complete game #137

Game #268 in my Koufax scored program collection, and still looking...

Awesome addition, Doug! Congrats

[doug.goodman]

Not new, but I love this thread, and wish it was a popular as the pennant thread...

Waite Hoyt complete game win allows only 14 hits

[mikecala98]

Called Shot program.

[doug.goodman]

Nice one Mike. It was your post of this program in the other thread that caused me to make my latest post.

Also, I find it interesting that the man who kept detailed score and notes about the individual homers didn't mention the calling of any shots...

[mikecala98]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Nice one Mike. It was your post of this program in the other thread that caused me to make my latest post.

Also, I find it interesting that the man who kept detailed score and notes about the individual homers didn't mention the calling of any shots...

I wonder how many people there didn’t realize it happened in real time. Or if it even happened….

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by mikecala98

I wonder how many people there didn’t realize it happened in real time. Or if it even happened….

Well, this detailed scorekeeper certainly didn't know it happened...

[71buc]

I picked this one up last night. I’ve always wanted something related to this game due to Clemente’s involvement. This was the first time I ever had the opportunity to do so.