Arrest In Jackie Robinson Statue Theft

[BioCRN]

This whole topic has moved past popcorn.

[Cliff Bowman]

The demand for racism far outweighs the supply.

[luciobar1980]

Why do people seem so angry at the people who thought this might be race-related? Is it really that far fetched? And why are you treating this as such a victory? Kinda pathetic if you ask me.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Why do people seem so angry at the people who thought this might be race-related? Is it really that far fetched? And why are you treating this as such a victory? Kinda pathetic if you ask me.

The problem is NOT that people raised the possibility it was race related, not at all.

The problem is that they insisted it was about race, said people who waited for or requested evidence were racists and stupid, and one of them even said "Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone,", which 2 more leftists then co-signed and +1'd. How would half the country be made 'out of the way and gone'? Can you imagine what would happen if a person who was not a leftist said this and expressed a wish for the deaths or removal of half the country?

The level of anger, absurd accusations, sheer stupidity without any evidence whatsoever for their claims, and even violent wishes is going to get a response when they turn out, yet again, to be 100% factually wrong. All in all, considering the absurdist and violent claims, the responses in this thread are incredibly mild. Nobody has gone even 1% as far as they did.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

The problem is NOT that people raised the possibility it was race related, not at all.

The problem is that they insisted it was about race, said people who waited for or requested evidence were racists and stupid, and one of them even said "Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone,", which 2 more leftists then co-signed and +1'd. How would half the country be made 'out of the way and gone'? Can you imagine what would happen if a person who was not a leftist said this and expressed a wish for the deaths or removal of half the country?

The level of anger, absurd accusations, sheer stupidity without any evidence whatsoever for their claims, and even violent wishes is going to get a response when they turn out, yet again, to be 100% factually wrong. All in all, considering the absurdist and violent claims, the responses in this thread are incredibly mild. Nobody has gone even 1% as far as they did.

+1, and they will do the same exact again the next time one of these situations arise. Zero acceptance of culpability.

[Yoda]

In this country, racism is the 800 pound gorilla in the living room. Still surprised that Niki Haley denied this truth on one of her campaign stops.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

+1, and they will do the same exact again the next time one of these situations arise. Zero acceptance of culpability.

I guarantee they won't learn a thing . Once one is so deep into an ideology that they believe that stating or co-signing, as 3 members did, that people with different political views need to die is acceptable, one is so far removed form logic and even the most basic kind of human decency that nothing will get through. It's just absolutely incredible how many people these days are willing to endorse massive scale violence over things they have made up and factually did not even happen.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Why do people seem so angry at the people who thought this might be race-related? Is it really that far fetched? And why are you treating this as such a victory? Kinda pathetic if you ask me.

Pretty amazing really.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Why do people seem so angry at the people who thought this might be race-related? Is it really that far fetched? And why are you treating this as such a victory? Kinda pathetic if you ask me.

If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

[ALBB]

I dont want to keep seeing/ reading these posts.....yet I keep seeing/ reading these posts

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by hammertime

The problem, as I see it, is as a society 'The Mainstream Media has' shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

Andy...........Just a slight correction to your post as I'm removing the 'we've' and inserting the true instigator to many issues we face today. They're not true journalists or reporters, they're 'actors' reading a prepared script.

[irv]

Originally Posted by hammertime

If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

Originally Posted by Kzoo

Andy...........Just a slight correction to your post as I'm removing the 'we've' and inserting the true instigator to many issues we face today. They're not true journalists or reporters, they're 'actors' reading a prepared script.

The media is definitely the enemy of the people but one must not forget what party funds them too.

I'm glad to see, at least up here anyways, many are waking up, opening their eyes and realizing just how much our MSM is nothing but propaganda anymore.
The CBC/Bell Media, The Toronto Star, CTV News, Global News are all hurting with massive layoffs happening and more coming because viewership is way down.
I also believe CNN is now 3rd among the big 3 stateside?
Despite this, some still can't see nor understand why our evil Liberal govt's want censorship so bad and are trying to pass bills as we speak.
They can't see the govt doesn't want the truth getting out, for people to be informed, no, they can't see that the govt just wants their version of the truth and nothing else.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this how communist countries like China inform their citizens and control what they can and cannot read, see or hear?
Many, sadly, can't even see the similarities here nor the connection despite it staring them right in their faces.

[ChasingPaper]

Originally Posted by hammertime

If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

100% Its called information suppression if its not in favor of the narrative being pushed.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by hammertime

If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

Proudly asserting from the beginning that there's no way this could be related to racial hate, as many in the troll brigade here did–also without a shred of evidence–is also jumping to a conclusion.

Why do you think law enforcement, without even being asked, felt the need to tell the press that "it doesn't appear at this time to be related to race"? The reason they did that is because most people following the story will naturally wonder if the crime was motivated by bigotry. Why some refuse to acknowledge that is obvious, but like they do, I'll refrain from saying the quiet part out loud. Ah, to live in a post-racism world, basking in the glow of Fox News on the idiot box...!

[CW]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Proudly asserting from the beginning that there's no way this could be related to racial hate, as many in the troll brigade here did–also without a shred of evidence–is also jumping to a conclusion.

Who did that?

I may not have read every post across the 3 different threads, but everyone seemed to be at least open to the possibility that this was racially motivated. I did not see one person try to completely rule it out, because nobody knew for sure, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by CW

Who did that?

I may not have read every post across the 3 different threads, but everyone seemed to be at least open to the possibility that this was racially motivated. I did not see one person try to completely rule it out, because nobody knew for sure, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

In the Water Cooler thread I said that if I turn out to be wrong and it does turn out to be racial that I would be the first one to do a mea culpa, I also asked how many on the other side will do the same if they are wrong. I count zero in that column.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by CW

Who did that?

I may not have read every post across the 3 different threads, but everyone seemed to be at least open to the possibility that this was racially motivated. I did not see one person try to completely rule it out, because nobody knew for sure, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Perhaps I overstated that point. The OP in this thread started this dumpster fire with "as predicted...." and I'm fairly certain others made similar comments. I'll take your word for it though, since I'm not digging back through a bunch of hateful, vitriolic garbageposts by people who are now on my ignore list!

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

The demand for racism far outweighs the supply.

Shhhhhh! The media doesn't want people to realize this.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

This whole topic has moved past popcorn.

The popcorn has been replaced with Kool aid. The purpose of this entire thread can be summed up with,

"See? I told you antiblack racism no longer exists! And this one news item proves it!"

Most Americans reading about the theft and desecration of a statue of a civil rights icon will consider the possibility that hate and racism were a motive. Only those sequestering themselves in the far-right echo chamber will see that as odd, or as one poster suggested, deserving of an apology. (Lol!)

[bnorth]

I am happy they caught at least one of the people involved. Now they can let him go and give him and his family a new house and a nice monthly check so he doesn't have to do something like this again.

[vintagerookies51]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The popcorn has been replaced with Kool aid. The purpose of this entire thread can be summed up with,

"See? I told you antiblack racism no longer exists! And this one news item proves it!"

Most Americans reading about the theft and desecration of a statue of a civil rights icon will consider the possibility that hate and racism were a motive. Only those sequestering themselves in the far-right echo chamber will see that as odd, or as one poster suggested, deserving of an apology. (Lol!)

Someone: Basically says racism has no place in this country
This board: You want to remove all the Republicans?!

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by vintagerookies51

Someone: Basically says racism has no place in this country
This board: You want to remove all the Republicans?!

+1

[Cliff Bowman]

Nice of you to drop in Mike, how’s the underground Climate Change survival bunker coming along?

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Why do you think law enforcement, without even being asked, felt the need to tell the press that "it doesn't appear at this time to be related to race"?

Because they know that's the conclusion the media immediately jumps to in situations like this. It's a vicious cycle, a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yes I know it's not the point you were trying to make but the authorities are complicit as well. Why can't they just say "it's under investigation and we will get to the bottom of it"?

And the Fox News ad-hominems are so tired. There are plenty of us who don't watch Fox News, didn't vote for Trump, etc who are sick of all of this.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by hammertime

Because they know that's the conclusion the media immediately jumps to in situations like this. It's a vicious cycle, a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yes I know it's not the point you were trying to make but the authorities are complicit as well. Why can't they just say "it's under investigation and we will get to the bottom of it"?

That is a good point. Controversial topics draw the clicks and views, that's for sure. And if the media coverage was the reason the obnoxious, angry people on this thread were so upset, I don't think the discussion here would have devolved to the extent it has. I think most reasonable people can agree that the outrage machine is out of control.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Nice of you to drop in Mike, how’s the underground Climate Change survival bunker coming along?

Now, now, Cliff. Everyone knows the climate crisis is real. We have droughts and floods so what further proof does one need?
Forest fires, maybe? Yeah, those for sure cement/confirm the climate crisis is upon us and if we don't act soon (again) we'll only have 7yrs to save the planet.
Record cold around the world too but that too is caused by global warming as I read that hear by a couple who can't explain it, but I believe them because thems edumacated folks wees are talking about here, nothing less.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2Q0V...FhczhhNjdmdTAy

[byrone]

Originally Posted by irv

Now, now, Cliff. Everyone knows the climate crisis is real. We have droughts and floods so what further proof does one need?
Forest fires, maybe? Yeah, those for sure cement/confirm the climate crisis is upon us and if we don't act soon (again) we'll only have 7yrs to save the planet.
Record cold around the world too but that too is caused by global warming as I read that hear by a couple who can't explain it, but I believe them because thems edumacated folks wees are talking about here, nothing less.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2Q0V...FhczhhNjdmdTAy

We in Canada pay a “carbon tax”.

That’s right, we pay tax on the stuff we exhale and the stuff that keeps plants alive.

Our local carbon tax will increase April 1st, after several previous increases.

And all gasoline, diesel, methane, propane, etc costs much more as a result.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Nice of you to drop in Mike, how’s the underground Climate Change survival bunker coming along?

And now the thread is complete

[campyfan39]

You are the absolute king, or queen, of creating straw men to yell at. NOBODY even came close to saying what you are claiming. You need some help.

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The popcorn has been replaced with Kool aid. The purpose of this entire thread can be summed up with,

"See? I told you antiblack racism no longer exists! And this one news item proves it!"

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

You are the absolute king, or queen, of creating straw men to yell at. NOBODY even came close to saying what you are claiming. You need some help.

Instead of saying to him, I know there is plenty of racism going around but this might not be a case of it, you called him a race-bating asshole. Try the former approach maybe?

[darwinbulldog]

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[campyfan39]

Uhhh.... I'll give you my entire collection if you find me saying that on this thread or anywhere.
Maybe you got me mixed up with someone else?

btw I agree with both of your sentiments. There is racism going around (in many directions) and he is a race-baiting asshole.

Originally Posted by Carter08

Instead of saying to him, I know there is plenty of racism going around but this might not be a case of it, you called him a race-bating asshole. Try the former approach maybe?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

Uhhh.... I'll give you my entire collection if you find me saying that on this thread or anywhere.
Maybe you got me mixed up with someone else?

btw I agree with both of your sentiments. There is racism going around (in many directions) and he is a race-baiting asshole.

Fair enough and yes, it was someone else. My fault.

[Bpm0014]

It’s peculiar that none of you wanted to shut down the first thread on the main page where the majority of posters were convinced that it was the same guys who beat up Jussie Smollett that desecrated the Jackie Robinson statue and if you doubted them you needed to be sent to an indoctrination re-education camp.

Bingo. Exactly.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

Uhhh.... I'll give you my entire collection if you find me saying that on this thread or anywhere.
Maybe you got me mixed up with someone else?

btw I agree with both of your sentiments. There is racism going around (in many directions) and he is a race-baiting asshole.

What a miserable, hateful piece of gärbage you are.

[campyfan39]

I am quite a content, blessed and joyous man. I don't hate a single person on this earth; even those who dislike or actively work against me. Enjoy your day Bobby, I will certainly enjoy mine.

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

What a miserable, hateful piece of gärbage you are.

As I type I am looking at one of the 4 copies I am blessed to own of my favorite card of my favorite player. And as Roy said "It's Good to Be Alive"

[irv]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

What a miserable, hateful piece of gärbage you are.

That's deep coming from you, the guy who lied to join the site, the guy who is the race baiting asshole, they guy who lashes out if ones opinion does not jive with his own, the guy who laughs and ridicules those who don't bow to the behest of their govt daddy, the guy who watches and believes what MSM spews to him and laughs at all other sources of info, the guy who believes in the climate crisis, Ukraine, Jan 6th, Russian collusion, maga bad, the vaccines are safe and effective, blm, antifa, the riots were mainly peaceful, or anything else his favorite party tells him to believe but thinks the rest of us, or those that don't toe the line like him are the brainwashed fools, not him.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Most Americans reading about the theft and desecration of a statue of a civil rights icon will consider the possibility that hate and racism were a motive. Only those sequestering themselves in the far-right echo chamber will see that as odd, or as one poster suggested, deserving of an apology. (Lol!)

I'm not sure that's true. There was a Rasmussen poll a few years back which showed that ~60% of Americans viewed Jackie Robinson favorably, 4% didn't like him, and 36% didn't know who he was. That's a 9 to 1 ratio of the population that doesn't know who he is vs those who don't like him. If statues are stolen at random by people who either have no clue who he was or who despise him, and never stolen by those who look up to him, then the odds were pretty heavily in favor of the theft having nothing to do with race.