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Old 02-27-2023, 10:44 AM
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I have a feeling with the DiMaggio card, SGC just had some non-experience grader and sense it was already in an older holder - issues and problems with just getting this evaluated again could have been avoided with better eyes.
Not defending them, just saying things are happening with non-experienced graders more often now. This discussion is good to have either way and enjoyed the comments.
Also, this issue could be hard to identify the way these cards had been cut - really, we only have the standard catalog to tell us the size. Would be interesting to look more into these WWG cards - do we really know 100% it was the same card

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No way an inexperienced grader was given a card of this magnitude without someone reviewing it.
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No way an inexperienced grader was given a card of this magnitude without someone reviewing it.
again...so much for random, anonymous grading.
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again...so much for random, anonymous grading.
Huh? Knowing a value has nothing to do with knowing who submitted it.
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Huh? Knowing a value has nothing to do with knowing who submitted it.
my point was "is a very high value" card treated the same as a $2 card when it's sent to be graded?

My understanding was that all cards are treated equally. Obviously this isn't the case.
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my point was "is a very high value" card treated the same as a $2 card when it's sent to be graded?

My understanding was that all cards are treated equally. Obviously this isn't the case.
All things equal I would want more experienced graders looking at higher end cards, no?
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All things equal I would want more experienced graders looking at higher end cards, no?
maybe?????? more experienced graders would be more likely to detect alterations, no? Whereas an inexperienced grader may not...so as someone sending my card in...maybe I want the inexperienced one?

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maybe?????? more experienced collectors would be more likely to detect alterations, no? Whereas an inexperienced grader may not...so as someone sending my card in...maybe I want the inexperienced one?
HA. Reminds me of my business a bit.

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maybe?????? more experienced graders would be more likely to detect alterations, no? Whereas an inexperienced grader may not...so as someone sending my card in...maybe I want the inexperienced one?
Haha, you should try GAI.

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my point was "is a very high value" card treated the same as a $2 card when it's sent to be graded?

My understanding was that all cards are treated equally. Obviously this isn't the case.
Of course that’s not the case. It would be foolish to treat them equally and it’s foolish to expect them to receive absolute equal treatment. It’s like the old Parcells saying that all players will be treated fairly doesn’t mean they’ll be treated equally. Same thing but with cards. Some are more important than others.
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Once a card gets into a PSA, SGC, BVG, etc. holder, most don't give a damn. That's a well-known fact.
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Once a card gets into a PSA, SGC, BVG, etc. holder, most don't give a damn. That's a well-known fact.
Indeed. The cleansing effect of the flip and slab. So ironic given the original impetus behind TPG.
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No way an inexperienced grader was given a card of this magnitude without someone reviewing it.
Come on Peter, you know that as much as you want to believe what you wrote, it's not guaranteed to be true.

Either an experienced or an inexperienced opinion giver, maybe the janitor, no matter how you 'slice it' (pun intended) the opinion selling company f'd up (I'm trying to cuss less) on that opinion.

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