New member cuban cards

[Roland 49]

Hi everyone my name is Rolando I am collector and author of Specialized Catalogue of Cuban Baseball Card 1909-1957. Bests regards.

[jjp3rd]

Welcome!! I have the Susini baseball cards and a few other odds and ends I purchased at flea markets in Havana a few years back.

Enjoy!!


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[Roland 49]

Dear John, the Susini cards only 3 cards in yeard 1917. Regards

[mannybb24]

Welcome to the board Rolando, glad you able to join the group!

For those who don't know, Rolando is the main man when it comes to Cuban baseball cards and collectibles, many of the items we see here in the States has been in his personal collection at one time or another.

Being a Cuban Baseball collector I have been fortunate to trade many emails with Rolando and also be one of the first to own his new Cuban Baseball card guide, filled with wonderful background information and complete checklists of the sets from the early 1900's in the late 50's.
The book has not been massed produced as of yet and there has only been a few copies made but hopefully he can garner some interest, especially from the Cuban and Negro baseball collectors that are on this board and see if that leads to something bigger.

Steve

[obiwan1129]

Welcome Rolando!

[ullmandds]

cool...welcome! I no longer have any cuban cards in my collection. I once had a cuban girlfriend...all gone!

Lets see some cuban cards!

[NiceDocter]

Hola Rolando we are happy to have you here! Rocky

[Luke]

Welcome Rolando! I'm working on 1924 Diaz. Here's what I have so far:

[Exhibitman]

That would be an interesting book. Try lulu.com. They have a pretty decent self-publishing system. I use them for my books.

[Andrew1975]

Originally Posted by Luke

Welcome Rolando! I'm working on 1924 Diaz. Here's what I have so far:

Great Diaz collection, Luke!

[YazFenway08]

Welcome! I am interested in the history of Cuban baseball and baseball cards...and would be interested in your guide. Are you offering it for sale now...even if in limited quantities? I am sure many here would be interested as well

Mike

[mannybb24]

What I know is he has made 10 copies and they’re all in Spanish.
I believe one will be available on eBay soon, Rolando may be able to provide more details when he jumps back on the board.

[wnp22]

Welcome! It's great to have someone with your knowledge base here on the boards!

[rhettyeakley]

Rolando, welcome to the Board.

I would also be interested in your guide as well (either in English or Spanish as I am fluent in both, I lived in Ecuador for several years when I was younger.) If you were in need of any help with anything like that let me know.

[Michael Peich]

Welcome, Rolando, and to echo the others I am also interested in owning a copy of your book.

Luke--Great Diaz collection!

Stay safe,
Mike

[JimC]

Welcome! Looking forward to learning more about you and Cuban cards.

[Mungo Hungo]

Hi Rolando!

It's always interesting to get insights into cards that most of us did not know existed.

I've been looking for a card of Henry Kimbro, and I believe he is in a few Cuban issues. Do you (or does anyone else) have any ideas as to how to track one down, aside from waiting for one to come up on ebay?

[Kenny Cole]

Kimbro is in the Caramelos El Indo, Almanaque Deportivo and Caramelo Deportivos sets, I believe. The El Indio and Almanaque are pretty difficult to find. The Caramelos pops up on eBay on occasion and is not too expensive if you can find one.

[Mungo Hungo]

Thank you Kenny. I'll look out for all of them, but it sounds like the Caramelo Deportivos is my best bet since any set from his playing days will do.

[Vintagedeputy]

I have a few small Cuban pieces in my collection.

[Roland 49]

Rhett, como tu hablas español te saludo, ayer conteste a todos sus preguntas, pero no aparecen mis respuestas no se que pasa, si sale este mensaje entonces volveré a escribirles a todos, ayer mi catalogo aparece en ebay cuban baseball, saludos a todos

[Roland 49]

Hi Luke I had the entire collection, on december 2020 were sold on ebay Walter Johnson, Grover Alexander and Arthur Vance, this Vance in the photo was mine. Regars

[doug.goodman]

The catalog is listed on ebay :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLANDO-SAN...IAAOSwAuVgMZB6


Here is one of my Cuban items...

[fduran27]

Originally Posted by Roland 49

Rhett, como tu hablas español te saludo, ayer conteste a todos sus preguntas, pero no aparecen mis respuestas no se que pasa, si sale este mensaje entonces volveré a escribirles a todos, ayer mi catalogo aparece en ebay cuban baseball, saludos a todos

Rolando - Ese libro esta increible! Creo qu necesitas tratar de reproducir mas para venta. Si solo hay 10, la historia no se puede pasar a la jente.

Saludos
Felipe

[Roland 49]

Hi Steve, you are right, I plan to make more catalogs, but at the moment there is a delay, there are 3 volumes, the first is this specialized catalog of postcards 1909-1957, the second volume is a catalog of postcards and printed matter 1881-1961, the third catalog is clothing, fabrics, glassware, ceramics etc, the latter is in print and will be ready in a few days, and then I can send others to print. As for the sale price, I am not the seller, he decides the price he wants, the seller took 3 books last December, the first one put a starting price of $ 79.99 on ebay and it sold for $ 307.99, the second He sold it last January in a store format with a starting price of $ 300 and it was also sold, let's wait to see how much it arrives. These catalogs are my 38-year research work on Cuban baseball memorabilia, greetings.

[Roland 49]

Friend Steve Peissig greetings, I just received your email for me through Clem, I have sent answers to you and others in this thread who have asked me but, they have not come out, I hope this comes out. Now there is my catalog on ebay Cuban baseball and this is the last of the three that my friend took to Spain, perhaps when the second volume returns this form, which is the 1881-1961 Post Card Catalog which is more than double the information and of photos than the first and can carry more copies of the first two volumes, I am finishing the third. There is a previous message for Steve but that is not for you, it was for the other thread and I was wrong and put it here. Greetings.

[ElCabron]

Hola Rolando, mi amigo!!!!

-Ryan

[Roland 49]

Ryan ml friend !!! It is good to have you in this thread because you are an expert in Cuban postcards. Now I remember years ago when you went to my house and we spent many hours looking at and analyzing the postcards. If you can enter the catalog item for sale, the seller shows 12 images of the pages and you will see some unusual things in Gener 1925 Cigars, Cabañas, Punch etc. Now there are the images, but later when finished they disappear, greetings.

[Roland 49]

Hola John I am sorry but only cuban pin.

[Roland 49]

Hello Mungo Hungo, you ask me about letters from Henry Kimbro, I have them all, the answer that Kenny Cole informed you is correct, greetings

[Roland 49]

Answers to questions that have been asked me in emails and private emails. 1-More than 2,500 postcards are cataloged in the catalog. 2- It is printed on 130g chrome paper. the cover in 250g chromed and laminated cardboard. all in color. 3- All the images on the cards have been in my hands and through many years I have scanned or photographed them. 4-Volume 2 is post card and printed 1881-1961.

[gracecollector]

Welcome Rolando,

I've often wondered if Don Zimmer has any other Cuban card/postcard issues other than this 1952 Victoria issue. Any idea?

[Roland 49]

Hi Brad, Don Zimmer played in Cuba in the 1951-52 seasons with Cuenfuegos and 1952-53 with Cienfuegos and Marianao, this is the only known Zimmer card, in my collection I have some of his photos and also balls signed by him, with the teams he played in Cuba. Regards.

[Roland 49]

Answers to questions 1- As you saw in the images shown in the catalog item, in the case of the Cabañas 1909 Cigar cards, in the Detroit team two different cards are shown because they are two different impressions, which appear in the lower bar that identifies the player, these variations appear on the 12 cards, that is to say: there are 24, when I started the collection many years ago in my portfolio there were 24. On the same page there are 3 Luis Bustamante cards as all three have different names in the bottom bar, that's why they scan all three. On the same sheet of the Cabañas Cigars book, the photo that you see taken by me at my work table, with some cards next to it, that is the original sheet designed in the printing press before printing the cards.

[Roland 49]

Diaz 1924? That factory never existed, in 1870s Tomas Gutiérrez registered his trademark and remained with that name until 1960, since its foundation it had several owners, in 1910 it was Manuel López and that same year the owners of the El Rey del Mundo Factory, it was Diaz, y Cia. In my catalog they appear with his real name Tomás Gutiérrez Major League Baseball 1924. I don't know who put these cards Diaz, but he made a serious mistake, since they call them by a false name.

[Roland 49]

Hello Jason 19, I do not know the book you mention from 1870, baseball entered Cuba in 1864 when Nemesio Guillo brought the first bat and ball to Cuba after studying in the United States, it is known from some games one between players from Havana and American sailors who challenged them, that was in 1868, and some games are known 1874, 1878, in this year the first official game of Cuban Baseball is played, I know from newspaper and magazine writings of that time, the first magazine of Baseball in Cuba and Latin America was printed on the island in 1881 and its name was "Base ball" in volume 2 of my catalogs, I show photos from that magazine.

[Roland 49]

Jason 19 answered him a few minutes ago and I told him that he does not know that book, because the image that you sent me does not correspond to the cover of the book, but, it seemed familiar to me, now I looked for the book in my collection and I found it, I have it in almost perfect condition, its original title is: "Los Sport y la Higiene" its author is Blas San Martin, I also have another edition from 1887.

[Northviewcats]

Happy to see that you have joined the board Rolando. I appreciate your knowledge of the history of Cuban baseball.

I have a question about Kevin Connors.

He played with the Club Almendares in 1948. He later went on to be a famous actor staring in the TV show The Rifleman.

He is pictured below in this Cuban baseball program that I have from 1949-50. Is there any other Cuban issues from the time that he played baseball in Cuba that feature Kevin Connors?

I appreciate any information that you or other board members can give me.

Best regards,

Joe

[Kenny Cole]

Connors is in the Acebo set.

[Roland 49]

Joe, I will tell you that there are many things about Kevin Connor that I will mention in 2 messages, In cards: 1- Catamelos El Indio postcard # 6, 2- Diaz Orthopedics # 13. 3- Aceb # 12 matches

[Roland 49]

Hello, I apologize but when I started the previous message they called me on the phone and I had to leave in my car, I will try to finish now. Kevin Connors appears in several collections, In my specialized catalog: El Indio # 6. Ortopedia Díaz # 13 in this collection that is rare also appears Ray Dandridge's postcard and on the catalog page you can see his photos and numbers. Aceb # 12 although this collection is not numbered, but I have the original photos with which the cards were printed. Kevin in my catalog # 2, on cards and postcard: Trinidad and Hno. Rollos Ansco, Sol de Oro, Newton Estape 8 "× 10", all of the above is Connor in photos where he is alone. In collections in large format but together with the other Almendares players, Publicidad Menendez, there are 2 printed in black and blue, Victory Banquet at the Coca Cola factory in Havana, Diploma of the Photos Magazine, Sport Guia Magazine, Magazine Chronicle, Board of Directors of Almendares, this form was from my father and he took all the players to sign it, the signatures of Connors and Monte Irvin appear, now an anecdote of this photo, in 2004 Monte Irvin was here in My house with Belinda Manning, the daughter of Max Manning, they were on that first visit to my house the same as in the second more than 5 hours, seeing things from when he played in Cuba and I showed him that form signed by him, that's where he looks at me and he says to me: look Rolando, I'm with Connors The Rifleman. Irvin and I had a great friendship and for years we had contact by mail and emails, one day he sent me one telling me that Buck O'Neil wanted to come to my house that if I agreed to prepare the trip, I said yes, but at the unfortunately a short time passed away.

[Roland 49]

The message that my friend Monte Irvin sent me told me that Buck O'Neil wanted to come to my house that if I agreed to prepare the trip and see so many things that Monte told him, I said yes but unfortunately he passed away. Irvin also saw balls signed by him at that time and also signed by Connors. I asked Irvin what your first card was and he told me the Topp, then I said: No! Your first card was Caramelos El Indio, he was amazed because he had never seen it.

[Northviewcats]

Thanks Kenny & Rolando for the information on Connors. I appreciate it.

Enjoyed your personal story Rolando about Monte Irvin. Now I know where to go for detailed information on Cuban baseball.

I do have a photograph of a professional ballplayer in my Cuban collection. There is a name on the back but I am not sure if it is of the player. Perhaps you can give me some information on him.

Thank you,

Joe

[Roland 49]

Spalding Guide in Spanish. Hello, in your email you ask me if it is true that a guide was printed in Spanish in 1908, I am going to expand the answer, now I have in my hands the first Spalding Guide in Spanish 1885, it is something very interesting since A.G. Spalding writes about the advances of baseball in Cuba and authorizes the printing of the guide in Cuba, among other things that he describes in his writing and signs it, in all its pages baseball is described in Cuba at that time. Now I have the 1908 guide, very interesting everything that has to do with statistics and mainly the photos of the players from that era of the black leagues, the teams that visited Cuba in those years, etc. The Spalding guides in Spanish are a great rarity since a small number of copies were printed. A few years ago an American collector who visited me told me that the few pages they have appear on the Library of Congress, the Black Leagues and the Hall of Fame pages.

[Jason19th]

I have been lucky to acquire two Spaulding Cuban Editions 1906 and 1915-16. Both are incomplete and in poor condition but they are among my most treasured items

[Roland 49]

You ask me in your email if I can answer you some questions from Ted William and Mikey Mantle when they were in Havana, but you don't tell me what you want to know, I've been answering questions about Cuban baseball for more than 30 years, for me it's a pleasure to answer Any question they ask me so repeat the email and tell me.

[Roland 49]

Jason 19 Hello, I saw the photos you sent of the Spalding guides in Spanish, you are right, although they are deteriorated they are rarities, I think the same as you. Since I've only been in the thread a few days, I have to familiarize myself and I don't know how to send photos, when I know you will see strange things.

[Roland 49]

Willie Mays at the Cerro Stadium, in your email you ask me if Mays played at the Cerro, that question has a long answer but I am going to give you a summary. There are 3 answers 1- Yes, the juice in the practices in the fields. 2- His records do not exist because he did not line up in any game. 3- Juice with another name? The story is long but I will tell you something, Mays was recommended to the owners of Almendares by Leo Durocher, Mendoza the owner of the team hired him, but when he arrived in Cuba he was already injured they waited for his recovery and he began in practice and at that moment there was A false report from Alejandro Pompez to the Major Leagues saying that he had been injured in Cuba, so they prohibited him from playing in the championship, he continued practicing on the field and was in uniform, he signed many balls, in my collection I had 2, shora comes the part interesting, which is the answer 3, many years ago I was young and I was next to two men and they always told me anecdotes about the ball and that day in a moment to

[Roland 49]

Hello Joe, the photo you sent me is of Jorge Torres known as (Cocoliso) corresponds to the Federation championship and the team is named Santiago, initially Ray Brown and Leon Day were in that team. Now I ask you how I am new and I am not practical, What to do to put photos in this thread, greetings.

[Exhibitman]

Never mind...