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Here are 4 Art Fletchers from this series in varying degrees of condition. The best example is an SGC 30 which is high grade for these. SGC 40 is the highest grade I have of any player, although I have some raw nice ones that could get 40 or 50.
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Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
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The Grading Co.'s can be "brutal" grading these 1910 COUPON cards....and, especially PSA. SGC 40 is the highest grade that I, also, have seen of any of these cards. I thought I'd get a nice grade on this Chance. It doesn't have any creases (or subtle problems). When I complained to PSA, they remarked: "that's your opinion, we see it differently". My mistake for submitting it to PSA. ![]() ![]() TED Z T206 Reference . |
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It's a good point about the "Super Prints" not necessarily being a separate group in 1910. That's certainly possible. Are there any theories as to how the Super Prints were printed? Seems possible/likely to me that those 6 poses were on their own sheet. That would make it easy for them to be printed with the large number of backs they appear with.
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Nice Evers Ryan!
That Willett is a beauty Ted. I am guessing it would grade a 2.5 or 3.
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Ted, that's awesome. I did not realize that you had found another T213-1 Chance and an upgrade to boot. Way to go. That card is near mint for this series. Here's an SGC 40 Rube Marquard...
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Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
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That Marquard is super nice. Also, you have 4 Fletchers? That's insane!
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Thanks, Luke. It's a long story. I bought up a bunch of these in the 90's. I only need a T213-1 Bob Rhoades to complete the set.
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Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
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Rob After you and I did a deal for my original Chance some years ago, I came across this Chance and I could not pass it up, although the price for it was "steep". I was very disappointed with the PSA's grade on it. Eventually, I'll crack it out and submit it to SGC. Gee, you've been hunting for that Rhoades for many years now. It's scarcity appears to be like his T3 card (which is absolutely tough to find). Good luck, and Happy New Year to you. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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And interestingly, this configuration coincides with the 48 - the Major League subjects in the 1910 COUPON set. Subsequently, ALC selected the 6 subjects that we refer to as the "Super Prints"**. When ALC included these 6 guys in the 350/460 Series, they Double-Printed them on sheets of T206's. This is evident on numerous surveys of T206 cards. Early 350 Series configuration (circa early Spring 1910) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Note * Placement of cards on this configuration are randomly arranged. Note ** Scot Reader's excellent research revealed that these 6 subjects were printed in larger quantities, and with more Tobacco brands than any of the other subjects in the T206 set. In his book titled "Inside T206", Scot identifies these 6 guys as the " Super-Prints ". TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted, do you still have the Chance from which you upgraded? If so, let me know if you ever go to sell/trade it.
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I believe the type 1's should have been included, but just weren't.....which sucks.....now they have just been classified with the 2's and 3's and grouped together unfortunately
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Rob and I traded for my first Chance some years ago. Have a Happy New Year. Quote:
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Ted - Great thread and as time marches on, the consensus is growing that Coupon Type 1's are in fact the same as the other T206 brands from 1909-11. By the way, the grades don't matter on these delicate beauties as the grading companies are all over the board. I have several that are vastly under graded and some that are over graded. I do like them in the holder for protection since their so fragile. I hope you don't mind me tossing some Southern Leaguer's in as this thread is completely void of them minus the Ted Breitenstein! Here is a player from each of the SL Teams...
Happy New Year Everyone!!
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