T207 The Best Tobacco Set Of All Time

[Birken]

Couldn't agree more guys. If T207 was as popular as other sets, commons would be out of reach for most and the Broad Leaf class would be selling for my first born. I'm glad there is less competition for the cards and so is my bank account as well as my wife

Originally Posted by Luke

Yeah, this is definitely a good point. There really aren't enough of the tough T207s to go around, so I probably should just be happy that not many other collectors are out there looking.

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[Leon]

Yes, popularity has its upside and downside. And if Wags and Cobb were in it it would be more popular, imo

Originally Posted by Birken

Couldn't agree more guys. If T207 was as popular as other sets, commons would be out of reach for most and the Broad Leaf class would be selling for my first born. I'm glad there is less competition for the cards and so is my bank account as well as my wife

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[Yoda]

Is it still an axiom that the Lewis without team emblem is more valuable than his emblemed brother? Can't find any recent info on recent sales, if there have been any.

[puckpaul]

i love this set. has a charm to it for sure. some of the cards are rough to look at, like the WaJo portrait (for a player with some great looking cards, this portrait does not do him justice!), but many of them are very cool and the rarity and difficulty of collecting them, for a major set, is distinctive.

i have a complete set, most of which i got as part of an old time collection which i bought with another person in the hobby. i have added the two Lewis variations and some of the other variations that were missing, like the Livingstons, the Austin insignia, etc. It was not easy to find the missing cards, and i was going to upgrade some cards but it gave me fits and i decided to just be happy with the set as is. i upgraded the Lowdermilk when there were quite a few of them for sale a few years back, but i haven't seen much of anything from this set lately in major auctions.

one thing i noticed is that most of the cards in my set are Recruit with very few Napoleon. not sure if that was how this collector put it together or if Recruits are much more common on the "common" section of the set?

[Luke]

Yeah, Recruits are very common and Napoleons are pretty tough, at least these days. A friend of mine who has been a dealer for a few decades told me that he would see Napoleons all the time like 20 years ago. He thinks a few people bought and stashed them away back then.

[sb1]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Is it still an axiom that the Lewis without team emblem is more valuable than his emblemed brother? Can't find any recent info on recent sales, if there have been any.

The Lewis No Emblem is undoubtedly the toughest card in the set and I would say the w/Emblem is #2.

[tedzan]

The T207 set is quite interesting in that it introduces many ballplayers unknown in other BB sets of that era. Chet Hoff and "Ham" Hyatt are two such examples.
In Post #12 in this thread, I provide a short story on Hoff.

Hamilton Hyatt (as his card's bio reads) was a pinch-hitting specialist for most of his career with Pittsburgh (1909-1914). With St Louis (1915), and NYY (1918).

And then there was "big" Larry McLean, a 6-foot-5, 230 lbs catcher (the tallest catcher in major league history). He was quite the character, but also was a real
fan favorite playing for Cincinnati (1906-1913). His off-the-field antics, such as getting into bar-room brawls, often got him in trouble with his Management.
In 1921 in a Boston saloon, he had his last brawl, as he was shot by the bartender. He died on his way to the hospital at the age of 39.









TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Bkrum]

I pulled my long moth balled partial T207 set to see what I had. Most were Recruit backs but I had three Broadleaf, one Napoleon, and four with none. How rare or desirable are the various backs?

[frohme]

There are a few posts on the board about the backs, and relative difficulties. Recruits are the most common by far. Napoleon-backed cards consist of the same 150 players as the Recruits, and are much less common. I believe there are several of us (both on and off the board) actively collecting them.

Broadleaf backs are in the tougher class of cards, and have no overlap with the the players found with Recruit/Napoleon backs. In that case, the relative value is based on who is on the front.

Here's one reference about the set, including info on the backs.

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Mike