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Actually, I do have your info (new phone number you just sent and verified) and because you have been a member a long time there is no need to talk on the phone. My only concern is people are who they say they are. The fact you made a statement that could land you in court, and in big trouble if not true, doesn’t affect me. I hope you have proof he stole the Mantle card. I think he has a very good lawyer. If I were him I might just sue you for what you said. Anyway, you are reinstated now. LL
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When you accuse someone of a crime, you had better be able to prove it. There is no internet exception to per se libel. If I were Earl, I would be looking for an address for service of process.
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man i hear all of this libel stuff and threats of lawsuits on net54 for years....nothing ever happens, but everyone makes it sound so easy and make sense logistically to just to sue on this...clearly isnt..
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Maybe we should have our profession listed...along with our full names
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Ask Doug Allen when he gets out. ps...I do agree with your statement about it not being a piece of cake to sue someone. Mostly it just takes money and time though. For the record I have never sued anyone or been sued.
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???mantle stolen
Again, I rarely post....this forum history stays on the internet and there is a historical record of what everyone writes that LASTS THRU THE AGES unless Leon deletes it which I don't think he will do!....someone that has a $10K card stolen and identifies a culprit by name, not only should file a police report but also needs to file an insurance claim through their homeowners or business insurance.
To accuse someone by name of a felony crime like this is not only bold but is permanently a scar on that person's reputation especially when they are innocent until proven guilty. Without any real proof, this is a libelous action. Earl has a pretty damn good reputation and its up to him to make sure his name is not dragged through the mud but as an longtime hobbyist, I really feel disgusted that someone can say something so bold without real testimony proof or any legal justification. If legal justification is warranted, its time to step into the batters box, this is not just about cards, its about integrity. |
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I understand everything that is said here stays here and its a public forum... so of course beware what you say as it will stay here forever most likley ..except asking prices Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 08-26-2018 at 11:34 AM. |
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never understood why everyone feels their homeowners insurance covers all of these random things....insurance companies dont make money paying claims...if there is gray area, if you arent sure they will pay, then the answer is 99% they wont. I see it time to time people on the forum referencing homeowners insurance paying for a lost card/ card stolen etc..... I havent' heard one story ever where someone got their homeowner insurance to pay on something happening to their card outside the home.....plus even if the issue happened inside your house, there would be issues of proving value, deductible, limits you can claim and again, whether it would be even covered......people just throw it out too often, 'have your homeowners coverage pay' when you lose an item outside the home..or get injured on a someones bicycle or fun type ride outside the home, or drycleaner ruins your clothes etc...... For the 100s of times i hear someone say 'put in a claim with your homeowners' im guessing zero times there is ever a recovery (ive never heard anyone say they got one), yet we will keep hearing people say call your homeowners insurance...its almost up there with suing for libel on this forum... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 08-26-2018 at 11:45 AM. |
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Not a bad idea. 36 years experience as a trial lawyer. I don't handle civil litigation any more but did defend VCBC magazine in a libel suit some years ago in Federal District court here in New Jersey. Lawsuits are expensive but when someone threatens your livelihood by accusing you of a crime, it may be worth the cost. This is not a hobby to Earl. It is his vocation.
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????mantle
In response-I recovered years ago from a lost item that was well documented.....often times it is correct that is tough to recover from insurance, HOWEVER you need to file a claim just to attempt to collect o/w you get NOTHING, as long as you have not filed excessive claims....and if you had an original receipt of buying the card or any expensive item, the PSA cert #, and an original police report and an affadavit from that "2nd party" that this was stolen at a show... there is a good chance a reputable insurance company WILL pay...You have to do your homework and be prudent, persistent & honest.
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i do know they sell collectible insurance......usually when there is that type of coverage that would mean that more common types of insurance, ie. homeowners, do not. Another example, rental insurance. Also beware that just filing a claim, even if its turned down, still goes on your claims history for all insurance potentially. Maybe that impacts future premiums, maybe not. If no claim no risk though... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 08-26-2018 at 12:20 PM. |
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????Mantle
There are certain insurance companies especially here in NY, that are less than stellar, most larger national companies will pay on a claim if very well documented and as long as your policy does not state explicit limitations...there are some "localized regional companies" that are not as easy to collect from regarding personal merchandise.
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I laughed when I read this too because those ice cream cones were damn good! I got one day 2 and meant to get another one day 4 but didn't get around to it.
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Update, Net 54 has all of my current info and I have no grudge against anyone. I simply stated my opinion based on personal experiences. Sincerely, Lisa Prodeline
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Inquiring minds would like to know (publicly)!!
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It's disgraceful IMO, in case that didn't come through before lol. In my opinion, if you're going to accuse someone of a crime, just putting your name by it is not enough, you should have to state your basis.
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What are the odds that the one card you have on you at the moment...and presumably multiple people have their eyes on...get's stolen?
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So wouldn't that cast doubt on the OP? Where's Oliver Stone to sort this all out for us?
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It is weird, no question. Women never post here and two (one confirmed) show up on this thread?
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Here's a crazy idea. . . .
Next time you want to go to a show to sell and have some really valuable stuff in your case . . . bring along your brother in law, or a neighbor, or some other dude from the corner bar who used to be a cop and pay him $50 for the day and offer to buy him lunch. Tell him to politely watch every interaction you have with your rare cards like a hawk. Guy will sit there and smile and just watch everything. And if he doesn't like a situation that's developing will ask for the cards back pronto. I am guessing that will reduce your likelihood of being ripped off to essentially zero. Last edited by Snapolit1; 09-04-2018 at 03:07 PM. |
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Something doesn't add up
The victim corroborated the "female" posters version of events at the time the Mantle was stolen. The victim then says he reached out to her but got no response and thinks shes a troll. But he agreed it went down the way only someone who was there could say it went down. The victim also wrote it "disappeared" and didn't want to call it "thievery" A different "female" comes forward and accuses one of the people in the group. A Mantle rookie was passed around a "sticky fingered" ice cream stand and walked away from by the owner? I think we are getting a fraction of the story. I love who good who dunnit. I hate to see someone lose any valuable, let alone a Mantle friggin rookie, but we are missing some important pieces to the story. This isnt the typical stranger steals your valuable when you aren't looking case. But i hope you get your card back. Last edited by BigMike79; 09-04-2018 at 01:33 PM. |
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Meanwhile NotVader, who came across as a non collector/outsider making jokes about her step uncle collecting dog food cards, posts that she has 85 t206 cards.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...postcount=2128
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I suppose, but hard to believe any real collector would mock Red Heart collectors.
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I thought maybe the step uncle knew him and that explained that part of it, but what's the point of trying to figure this mess out, all the protagonists are behaving strangely including the OP if you ask me.
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I have 6 years in so that either means I have not attained veteran status or I am the exception to your statement. Have no idea who Earl is, what he looks like, where he worked nor why he no longer works for his prior employer.
So let me ask you if you find it odd that some who would state, 'I cant believe you guys are collecting Dog Food Labels LOL!' would also know of Earl, be able to spot him in line getting ice cream, know he worked for SGC and know he left SGC? I find it very odd but maybe I am just odd.
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Lol, maybe a few years older, and darker hair and mustache
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A young gal recently posted in a FB group I am in how she left her phone in a bathroom, then someone stole it. I really want it back!!! Sounds more like she lost her phone to me. These situation kinda reminded me of each other...
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