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Old 08-10-2018, 06:07 PM
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When did PSA become experts grading metal coins such as the 1980 Topps Protoype Coins. They are very limited in specimens to be compared to each other for the grades that are given The grades that are listed are for cards not coins I would think they would not grade metal coins minted to be graded the same as baseball cards based on 4 corners and printed on paper stock. I might have missed where they have grades for coins

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Remember, PSA has a sister company that grades coins. However, here's the official statement.
"The grading of pins or coins often comes down to the strength or weakness of the eye appeal since the material in question is far less susceptible to wear than cardboard or paper. The areas/defects that PSA graders focus on include but are not limited to: scratches, dents, severity of rust (if present), centering of the picture (obverse and reverse), compression of the pin/coin, the overall condition of the paper (if present) on the reverse and overall print quality. Since collectible coins/pins often differ in their makeup, sometimes greatly, it is very difficult to apply one uniform grading standard to all collectibles that fall into this category. The factors above represent the basic, key elements in the PSA grading approach. At this time, pins and coins will not receive half-point grades."

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Remember, PSA has a sister company that grades coins. However, here's the official statement.
"The grading of pins or coins often comes down to the strength or weakness of the eye appeal since the material in question is far less susceptible to wear than cardboard or paper. The areas/defects that PSA graders focus on include but are not limited to: scratches, dents, severity of rust (if present), centering of the picture (obverse and reverse), compression of the pin/coin, the overall condition of the paper (if present) on the reverse and overall print quality. Since collectible coins/pins often differ in their makeup, sometimes greatly, it is very difficult to apply one uniform grading standard to all collectibles that fall into this category. The factors above represent the basic, key elements in the PSA grading approach. At this time, pins and coins will not receive half-point grades."

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Just smoke and mirrors on their part
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So you ask a question, I answer it accurately, and you just bash them? No more soup for you.
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So you ask a question, I answer it accurately, and you just bash them? No more soup for you.
Thats fine not really big on soup and PSA
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I don't see any difference in grading cards, magazines, coins, pins, etc. It all comes down to a scale grade based on condition. Just because the item is limited, doesn't mean the grade should change. Are cards graded against each other or to a generally accepted "norm" of centering, surface, etc? I would guess the latter.
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I don't see any difference in grading cards, magazines, coins, pins, etc. It all comes down to a scale grade based on condition. Just because the item is limited, doesn't mean the grade should change. Are cards graded against each other or to a generally accepted "norm" of centering, surface, etc? I would guess the latter.
I think there is a difference between cards and coins, one would not send a card to PCGS/NGC Coin Grading Service to grade a card. My question is does PSA have a benchmark of 1980 topps coin to compare with to get their grades. Each coin can be different with marks or how they are struck , at best the 1980 coins should only recieve Authentic since only @ 14+/- came into circulation. Also did PSA also base their their grades on the first coin that was submitted to them, apparently they dont have the first coins
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It’s no different than what card dealers did for decades they grade them based on the standards of that industry at the time. These are not numismatics and shouldn’t be judged as such simply because they are called coins. Of all the things to complain about grading for this is officially one of the dumbest I have seen so far.

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It’s no different than what card dealers did for decades they grade them based on the standards of that industry at the time. These are not numismatics and shouldn’t be judged as such simply because they are called coins. Of all the things to complain about grading for this is officially one of the dumbest I have seen so far.
I guess being "officially one of the dumbest" got your attention.BLess Your Heart!

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