The new SGC is almost here!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by calvindog

They will be using computers to grade cards, thereby removing the uncertainty that exists when humans are involved, i.e. the garbage grading from PSA. They will have scans of all cards graded which will be available to anyone online. They will have the ability to make offers on any card graded, again available to anyone online. Their customer service blows away PSA. Their slab is head and shoulders better looking than PSA's. Oh - but PSA has the Registry which causes higher resale value on certain issues. I'm sure SGC has no chance in such a marketplace.

Just wondering, what is your hard on with PSA? You are beyond intelligent enough to know the difference in value....Also, who gives a damn about how nice the holder is when resale value is in play? Hell, for that matter, Beckett's holders are nice and thick....Really? Why is this a big deal? Would you sacrifice price versus presentation? It sounds like you have a huge agenda with PSA, good luck with that for whatever reason.....

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Just wondering, what is your hard on with PSA? You are beyond intelligent enough to know the difference in value....Also, who gives a damn about how nice the holder is when resale value is in play? Hell, for that matter, Beckett's holders are nice and thick....Really? Why is this a big deal? Would you sacrifice price versus presentation? It sounds like you have a huge agenda with PSA, good luck with that for whatever reason.....Wonder what David Hall would think about different holders versus value?

I don't have an "agenda" with PSA -- I have thousands of cards in PSA holders. Some of us are not as desperate for money when it comes to this hobby so resale is not the only issue when picking a grading company. And other than in popular Registry sets, resale value is no different between the two companies. In addition, as someone who spends big money on cards, I feel more comfortable buying an SGC card than a PSA card on average as I know there is a better chance of the card being graded correctly. Finally, the cards look better in SGC holders and SGC's customer service is leaps and bounds ahead of PSA's.

I guess if responding negatively to shitty customer service, lousy grading and ugly holders qualifies as an "agenda" than I have an agenda.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I don't have an "agenda" with PSA -- I have thousands of cards in PSA holders. Some of us are not as desperate for money when it comes to this hobby so resale is not the only issue when picking a grading company. And other than in popular Registry sets, resale value is no different between the two companies. In addition, as someone who spends big money on cards, I feel more comfortable buying an SGC card than a PSA card on average as I know there is a better chance of the card being graded correctly. Finally, the cards look better in SGC holders and SGC's customer service is leaps and bounds ahead of PSA's.

I guess if responding negatively to shitty customer service, lousy grading and ugly holders qualifies as an "agenda" than I have an agenda.

Fair enough...Interesting though as all of the high graded T206s I bought from you several years ago, all were graded PSA...

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Fair enough...Interesting though as all of the high graded T206s I bought from you several years ago, all were graded PSA...

I was buying all over the place back then in high grade PSA and SGC -- just look at my Chase and Cobb collections. Simple fact is, more high graded T206s are sold in PSA holders so necessarily I'd be buying more of them. Yes, SGC's went for cheaper and when that opportunity arose to buy them, I bought them. I've never submitted a raw T206 to either company. The cards I buy raw and submit, additionally, are usually in sets that are not impacted by the Registry. It's just easier for me to send them to SGC and get them back in the time it takes for PSA to even acknowledge receipt of the package.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I was buying all over the place back then in high grade PSA and SGC -- just look at my Chase and Cobb collections. Simple fact is, more high graded T206s are sold in PSA holders so necessarily I'd be buying more of them. Yes, SGC's went for cheaper and when that opportunity arose to buy them, I bought them. I've never submitted a raw T206 to either company. The cards I buy raw and submit, additionally, are usually in sets that are not impacted by the Registry. It's just easier for me to send them to SGC and get them back in the time it takes for PSA to even acknowledge receipt of the package.

Fair and decent response, I'll step down...

[ullmandds]

my goodness the civility is deafening!!!!

[bn2cardz]

Did SGC have any modern cards in the new slabs at their display? That is where they need to pick up their business if they are going to stay around. They already had a good grasp of the vintage market, but it was finite. The modern cards is what is continually growing and where they need to gain market share.

Beckett is reaching a year on turnaround times. This would be the time for SGC to make their move into modern as modern collectors are frustrated with waiting a year for their cards to come back graded from Beckett and PSA doesn't offer the coveted "pristine" grade.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Just wondering, what is your hard on with PSA? You are beyond intelligent enough to know the difference in value....Also, who gives a damn about how nice the holder is when resale value is in play? Hell, for that matter, Beckett's holders are nice and thick....Really? Why is this a big deal? Would you sacrifice price versus presentation? It sounds like you have a huge agenda with PSA, good luck with that for whatever reason.....

He is just had a strong preference for SGC.