Biggest years in the hobby- Modern

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Steve 1989 Fleer glossy is a parallel according to Beckett. The entire write up except the common flaws was taken from he Beckett site.

1984 Topps football was a a big deal due the rookie craze and the fact that it had a Marino and elway rookie. I don’t think the question was what was big at the time but most noteworthy.

LOL, I thought you meant the Upper Deck... Sometimes I totally miss things.
I see Fleer glossy as more of its own set, but it's interesting Beckett thinks of it as a parallel. How do they list the Nestles, and desert storm, and for that matter the tiffany and score glossy sets? They were all issued on their own in different forms.

Maybe, I saw the question as more along the lines of what was a big deal n a year and affected the hobby at the time and after.
All the other sports lagged behind Baseball until... I don't actually recall when. I know I bought older cards from other sports for very little right into the late 80's. The Marino and Elway were key cards, but hadn't taken off yet. Same for the Gretzky rookie. I got mine in lot that came in a monster box that just happened to have the whole set from that year. I think $50 for the whole box.

Now if I could recall just when everyone suddenly got interested in cards from the other sports, that would have to be a big hobby event.

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by steve B

LOL, I thought you meant the Upper Deck... Sometimes I totally miss things.
I see Fleer glossy as more of its own set, but it's interesting Beckett thinks of it as a parallel. How do they list the Nestles, and desert storm, and for that matter the tiffany and score glossy sets? They were all issued on their own in different forms.

Maybe, I saw the question as more along the lines of what was a big deal n a year and affected the hobby at the time and after.
All the other sports lagged behind Baseball until... I don't actually recall when. I know I bought older cards from other sports for very little right into the late 80's. The Marino and Elway were key cards, but hadn't taken off yet. Same for the Gretzky rookie. I got mine in lot that came in a monster box that just happened to have the whole set from that year. I think $50 for the whole box.

Now if I could recall just when everyone suddenly got interested in cards from the other sports, that would have to be a big hobby event.

Before 1992 I think parallel was more of a loose term. They had a bunch of Tiffany/glossy sets done before this one ( 1989 Fleer glossy). The thing is it has a Griffey rookie that is diffeicult to find in high grade because of factory issues. We can also add the 1989 Bowman Tiffany to 1989 cards that make a splash now. They made less Bowman Tiffany but there have been more high grades in the Bowman Tiffany then Fleer glossy. I was just adding to the fact that 1989 was a game changer. Without these other griffey rookies all we would have is a bunch of mass produced Griffey’s( like the upper decks never ending printing)


I also think that almost ever year from 1980 till now has some significance to the modern collector. So I was just cherry picking some big moments that popped in to my mind.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Before 1992 I think parallel was more of a loose term. They had a bunch of Tiffany/glossy sets done before this one ( 1989 Fleer glossy). The thing is it has a Griffey rookie that is diffeicult to find in high grade because of factory issues. We can also add the 1989 Bowman Tiffany to 1989 cards that make a splash now. They made less Bowman Tiffany but there have been more high grades in the Bowman Tiffany then Fleer glossy. I was just adding to the fact that 1989 was a game changer. Without these other griffey rookies all we would have is a bunch of mass produced Griffey’s( like the upper decks never ending printing)


I also think that almost ever year from 1980 till now has some significance to the modern collector. So I was just cherry picking some big moments that popped in to my mind.

Interesting take on 1989. And it does make sense, the UD cards were the big thing once they came out, along with the Billy Ripken.

And yes, there's probably something special that happened every year since 1980. Some more special than others, but that's more an individual thing. Like 83? when Topps sold uncut sheets rolled in huge "packs" through at least one of the chain toy stores. Special to me because it was a pretty weird thing to do even for Topps. But probably not so special to anyone else.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by steve B

Now if I could recall just when everyone suddenly got interested in cards from the other sports, that would have to be a big hobby event.

1989. Hoops with David Robinson and Score Football with Barry Sanders, Troy Aikman, etc. The first football Beckett was December 1989, Basketball March 1990, Hockey September 1990.

[Rich Klein]

[QUOTE=steve B;1737333]LOL, I thought you meant the Upper Deck... Sometimes I totally miss things.
I see Fleer glossy as more of its own set, but it's interesting Beckett thinks of it as a parallel. How do they list the Nestles, and desert storm, and for that matter the tiffany and score glossy sets? They were all issued on their own in different forms.

Just as an FYI -- and I'm doing this from long-ago memory and that's more than 10 years now. The reason they are called "Parallels" in Beckett is because the checklists are identical and to ensure the checklists moved properly and did not have to be typed in AGAIN, we used a parallel nomenclature.

That way, one could just copy over a checklist in the data base fairly easily. Of course, there was the month I deleted the 1989 Topps set from the data base but that's a different story but related to this.

Rich

[steve B]

Thanks Rich! I think it's interesting to hear the inside story of how things got where they are in the cataloging end of the hobby.

Oddly, considering the hobby in general much of what I've heard is pretty straightforward compared to the cataloging of stamps, where egos etc get in the way of getting obvious stuff added and getting old mistakes - often made decades ago corrected.

[clydepepper]

1990 Donruss - officially, the end of the 'true' error card.