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Old 11-07-2017, 10:45 AM
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I like a few guys on the list, but in my opinion Marvin Miller is the most important and should've been in a long time ago.
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:24 AM
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I like a few guys on the list, but in my opinion Marvin Miller is the most important and should've been in a long time ago.
+1 The others make the list of the "very good," but not HOF worthy.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:10 PM
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Dwight Evans isn't even on the list? Some cutoff date thing?
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:17 PM
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I'm having trouble understanding why Miller is even included. Every other name on that list is a former player. Why would Miller not have to sit out until the next Executives vote?
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:23 PM
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None of the above unless we want to further expand the Hall of the very good.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:35 PM
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Mattingly definitely shouldn't get in. The time for stat forecasting is long gone when it comes to voting. Puckett is the last one to get in based on the forecasting of stats.

The others, we'll see. I tend to agree that they are at the "very good" level, but not "Hall of Fame" level.
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My head says Trammel, Simmons and Marvin Miller


My heart adds Dale Murphy
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I think Alan Trammell will get in. If I had a second choice in would be Steve Garvey. Sabermetrics don't treat him kindly and you wouldn't want him on your fantasy team. He didn't walk much. All he did was get a lot of hits, drive in a lot of runs and win games. 5 Pennants and 1 Championship between 1974-1984. He led those championship teams in RBIs every time. An MVP award, 10 time All Star and 4 Gold Gloves. He was even better in the postseason. .910 OPS with over 200 at bats and 2 LCS MVPs.
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trammell. this is not the nba where everyone and their grandmother get in, i don't care about contributions to the game or what you do outside of it. tommy john can mail his ligament to the hall of fame after he dies.
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None of the above unless we want to further expand the Hall of the very good.
Agreed, too many mistakes in the past seems to make the standard low which it shouldn't be. To me, its ridiculous that Andre Dawson is a HOFer and he shouldn't be the standard by which others are judged. No one on that list is worthy.
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Agreed, too many mistakes in the past seems to make the standard low which it shouldn't be. To me, its ridiculous that Andre Dawson is a HOFer and he shouldn't be the standard by which others are judged. No one on that list is worthy.
To me, if there's a substantial doubt or debate, that should in and of itself mean no. I think the Hall should be reserved for unquestionable all time greats, guys about whom there is no room for argument -- guys like Gwynn, Maddux, Ripken, Henderson, to give a few relatively recent examples.
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