Not to get back to Kaepernick , but

[jason.1969]

As the 2016 election showed, America has nothing against divisive statements as long as they're made by a white guy.

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[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

As the 2016 election showed, America has nothing against divisive statements as long as they're made by a white guy.

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Tell that to Curt Schilling.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Tell that to Curt Schilling.

And Mike Ditka.

Which actually brings up an interesting comparison. For all of you complaining that Kaep is being punished for exercising his Freedom of Speech, why aren't you out campaigning for Schilling or Ditka to get their jobs back at ESPN? They were each fired by ESPN for exercising their Freedom of Speech.

[packs]

I think you're reaching when you compare Kaepernick to Curt Schilling. What could they possibly have in common? Schilling denies that racism exists in a city where Tom Yawkey was forced to allow an African American player to play....in 1959. What is your common thread between them other than they're two people who said things?

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by packs

I think you're reaching when you compare Kaepernick to Curt Schilling. What could they possibly have in common? Schilling denies that racism exists in a city where Tom Yawkey was forced to allow an African American player to play....in 1959. What is your common thread between them other than they're two people who said things?

Schilling was/is very outspoken about his disgust with Obama. That's why he was fired - he went against ESPN's leftist ideals.

Edit: Well, it was that, and his comments about Islam/Conservative views in general.

[packs]

But how does that relate at all to Kaepernick? He knelt during the anthem. He didn't disparage anybody and he listened to criticisms about how he could go about his protest in the most respectful of ways, like kneeling instead of sitting down. All Schilling has ever done is double down any time someone doesn't like what he says. He hasn't spent a second considering how he might get his message across in a respectable way, not that I think there could possibly be a respectable way for him to make his views known, none of which I understand.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by packs

But how does that relate at all to Kaepernick? He knelt during the anthem. He didn't disparage anybody and he listened to criticisms about how he could go about his protest in the most respectful of ways, like kneeling instead of sitting down. All Schilling has ever done is double down any time someone doesn't like what he says. He hasn't spent a second considering how he might get his message across in a respectable way, not that I think there could possibly be a respectable way for him to make his views known, none of which I understand.

How does it relate? Two people each have a job. Both are good/bad at their respective job, depending on who you ask. One crosses ESPN's ideals, and is fired. The other crosses fan/front office ideals, and isn't getting many looks for employment. Both were political statements that could divide people.

I'm not sure I understand the second half of your comment, as it's contradictory and very closed-minded, neither of which make for a good or clear argument.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

As the 2016 election showed, America has nothing against divisive statements as long as they're made by a white guy.

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Can you give one example of someone in MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, NASCAR, or whatever they call the Soccer league, who said something as divisive as Kaep since Cheeto J*s*s was elected, but was unscathed strictly because of their white privilege?

[packs]

Luke Scott

[Cliff Bowman]

Do you know how to shut Kaepernick up? Ask him to name just one of the hundreds of young black males murdered by another young black male last year. He couldn't name one if his life depended on it.

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Do you know how to shut Kaepernick up? Ask him to name just one of the hundreds of young black males murdered by another young black male last year. He couldn't name one if his life depended on it.

So you're saying people committing crimes on one another is the same thing as institutionalized racism? It's ok for white cops to treat black suspects differently because black people at times kill other black people? What is the point you're trying to make?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by dgo71

So you're saying people committing crimes on one another is the same thing as institutionalized racism? It's ok for white cops to treat black suspects differently because black people at times kill other black people? What is the point you're trying to make?

What is the ratio of black men killed by cops as compared to black men killed by other black men? Don't hold me to this, but I remember hearing the number 60 to 1. Which one is by far the greater threat to the black community? Which one is ignored, and which one is covered wall to wall when it happens? I will forever have the names Trayvon Martin, Philando Castille, Michael Brown, Laquan McDonald, Freddie Gray, Eric Garner stuck in my head through the wall to wall saturation from the media. There are also the gentlemen in Louisiana, South Carolina, and Oklahoma whose names I can't think of but certainly remember the incidents. I couldn't tell you the name of a black on black murder victim to save my own life. The media purposely ignores those and sweeps them under the rug. I am saying that liberals and the black community have their priorities way out of whack and are ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

[Cliff Bowman]

If any those of black men that I named were killed by another black man rather than a cop or a white man, would you or I have ever heard of them? Absolutely not.

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

What is the ratio of black men killed by cops as compared to black men killed by other black men? Don't hold me to this, but I remember hearing the number 60 to 1. Which one is by far the greater threat to the black community? Which one is ignored, and which one is covered wall to wall when it happens? I will forever have the names Trayvon Martin, Philando Castille, Michael Brown, Laquan McDonald, Freddie Gray, Eric Garner stuck in my head through the wall to wall saturation from the media. There are also the gentlemen in Louisiana, South Carolina, and Oklahoma whose names I can't think of but certainly remember the incidents. I couldn't tell you the name of a black on black murder victim to save my own life. The media purposely ignores those and sweeps them under the rug. I am saying that liberals and the black community have their priorities way out of whack and are ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

Why should one thing outweigh the other? Black-on-black crime exists, so that somehow negates or minimizes the problem that racism still exists as well? Of course not, because one problem has nothing to do with the other. They are BOTH problems, and trying to turn focus to black-on-black crime serves only to draw focus away from racism.