Update on PWCC Bid Monitoring Program

[vintagerookies51]

People are always going to be complaining about something. Way to take another step in the right direction, Brent

[Topnotchsy]

Brent,

Kudos for this. Looks like a step in a positive direction.

I've got about 25 auctions listed with you that end in the next 2 hours of which I can confirm no shill bidding is being done. (Holding my breath on the Gehrig and Clemente cut autos and Ruth Game Used Patch card since I may take a bath on them...)

[slidekellyslide]

I don't understand why ebay needs to be a party to this? Ebay if they wanted could end bid retractions today, but they don't, and they won't. And this will have zero effect because anyone can and will retract bids if they want to because ebay allows it to happen. Anyone know what it actually takes for a buyer to get the boot from ebay?

Some lady got mad at me for turning her over for non-payment so one night she decided to hit the BIN on 30 or 40 of my highest priced items on ebay. I periodically checked her ebay ID to see if ebay would ban her, they never did. Another bidder asked me to end an auction early for a ridiculously low price, I answered him that I know what they typically sell for and would rather let the auction run to the end. Well he then used two accounts (including the same one he asked me to end the item early) to run up the auction to $1000 on a $300 item. I emailed him to ask him what was up, he denied even bidding on it even though I could see he was the underbidder. I called ebay and the lady told me she could see it was the same person. She said she would cancel their bids. I waited and waited but ebay did not cancel the bids so I did it myself and then blocked both accounts. Neither account was suspended.

Ebay doesn't give one crap what the bidder/buyer is doing as long as sellers keep paying their ebay bill at the end of the month. Shill bidding? Yeah, ebay loves it, more $$$ for them. Why do you think they made it harder for bidders to see each other? Bid retractions? Yeah, ebay doesn't care because they know that retracting a bid is part of the shilling game that makes them more $$$.

[Arazi4442]

FWIW, I'm in the camp of those who hope this is a step in the right direction. Even small steps are progress.

[vthobby]

Brent,

Thank you for the monthly checks that ALWAYS arrive on time and for the crazy prices you get on some of my items!

I have NEVER been withheld funds on ANY item I have ever sent. I guarantee you that some of my items were not paid for since I've been consigning for 2 years now but I have been paid for EVERY item ALWAYS.

Thanks Brent!

Peace, Mike

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Brent,

Thank you for the monthly checks that ALWAYS arrive on time and for the crazy prices you get on some of my items!

I have NEVER been withheld funds on ANY item I have ever sent. I guarantee you that some of my items were not paid for since I've been consigning for 2 years now but I have been paid for EVERY item ALWAYS.

Thanks Brent!

Peace, Mike

This nicely summarizes the issue presented here, and on the other PWCC thread. Crazy prices are paid and that's all that matters. How? No worries. Doesn't matter how. Doesn't matter if its fraud. For those sales that are, shall we say, less than on the up and up, you can say exactly the same thing that an honest seller would say and unless you do a Sherlock Holmes job, no one is the wiser. And some shill of the seller can come on here and solemnly proclaim how on the up and up it was and then be all indignant when people call bullshit. Right. I get it.

I seldom buy anything on eBay anymore, and these two threads make me question whether I should even bother trying to buy anything ever again. What a shit show. I hope that all the principals involved in this sad debacle experience the karma that they very richly deserve.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

This nicely summarizes the issue presented here, and on the other PWCC thread. Crazy prices are paid and that's all that matters. How? No worries. Doesn't matter how. Doesn't matter if its fraud. For those sales that are, shall we say, less than on the up and up, you can say exactly the same thing that an honest seller would say and unless you do a Sherlock Holmes job, no one is the wiser. And some shill of the seller can come on here and solemnly proclaim how on the up and up it was and then be all indignant when people call bullshit. Right. I get it.

I seldom buy anything on eBay anymore, and these two threads make me question whether I should even bother trying to buy anything ever again. What a shit show. I hope that all the principals involved in this sad debacle experience the karma that they very richly deserve.

Well said and right on point.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by vintagerookies51

People are always going to be complaining about something. Way to take another step in the right direction, Brent

+1