Frank Gotch the King

[jefferyepayne]

Have gotten into Frank Gotch items recently. Show your Gotch items here. Would love to see them!

Just pick up this postcard recently.



jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

Oh I have a ton of Gotch items.......I will have to contribute to this thread.

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[jefferyepayne]

WOW. I've been looking for every single one of those postcards!

Shown it before but here is the Royal Tailor I have.



jeff

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[jefferyepayne]

Got any doubles?

jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

i have a spare of the American Caramel and one of the postcards.........

[wrestlingcardking]

I picked this up the other day.....

[jefferyepayne]

Nice Ticket! Picked up a few things myself recently.







jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

Any recent additions to your collection?

[FourStrikes]

Gotch w/trainers at Riverside training camp, Humboldt, Iowa...

postmarked August 8, 1911 from Cleveland, Ohio, about a month
before his September match vs. George Hackenschmidt.

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[wrestlingcardking]

Thanks for sharing....went through my collection and found this one but it is trimmed. If you are ever wanting to part with your postcard please let me know about it. Thanks.

[NiceDocter]

Sports Champions card looks like the grandfather of Andy Richter on Conan!!!!

[jefferyepayne]

A question for WrestlingCardKing ...

I see you have the #1 Frank Gotch set on PSA. Why is he listed under Non-Sports? And why are sooo many of his postcards not considered part of his Master Set?

I'm sure you've dealt with PSA on these issues and I'm wondering what their rationale is.

jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

My best guess is that many postcards do not have information on the company that produced them so there is information lacking on how to label them....I totally understand that.

As for non-sports I think that is pretty silly and at some point you can move over wrestling when it went to "entertainment" but in reality it would just be simpler if they included them in sports. I am going to try and get some different Gotch postcards graded by PSA that have not been graded to date because it should have enough information to do so.....wish me luck.

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

A question for WrestlingCardKing ...

I see you have the #1 Frank Gotch set on PSA. Why is he listed under Non-Sports? And why are sooo many of his postcards not considered part of his Master Set?

I'm sure you've dealt with PSA on these issues and I'm wondering what their rationale is.

jeff

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by wrestlingcardking

My best guess is that many postcards do not have information on the company that produced them so there is information lacking on how to label them....I totally understand that.

As for non-sports I think that is pretty silly and at some point you can move over wrestling when it went to "entertainment" but in reality it would just be simpler if they included them in sports. I am going to try and get some different Gotch postcards graded by PSA that have not been graded to date because it should have enough information to do so.....wish me luck.

Yeah. Anybody that thinks what Gotch and Hack were doing at that time was anything like WWF is clueless.

jeff

P.S. Good luck getting your PCs graded!

[wrestlingcardking]

I have three postcards of Frank Gotch that are spares and are graded by PSA. Get a hold of me if you are interested in them....maybe we can trade......

[jefferyepayne]

Sent you a PM, King. Here are a few others I've been able to pick up.





Anyone else here attend the NCAA Wrestling Championships each year?

jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

Nice postcards, I have each of those......love the one with him and the car. I used to go to the NCAAs each year but haven't as I got into coaching and directing the association freestyle tournaments in my area so I have not been in a while. You headed to St.Louis this year?

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by wrestlingcardking

Nice postcards, I have each of those......love the one with him and the car. I used to go to the NCAAs each year but haven't as I got into coaching and directing the association freestyle tournaments in my area so I have not been in a while. You headed to St.Louis this year?

Absolutely. My Dad and I have been there 27 straight years now. It's become our father / son yearly event.

I grew up in PA so am in heaven these days with Penn State doing so well!

jeff

[jefferyepayne]

Do you collect memorabilia from Olympic or HOF wrestlers too? I have some photos / autographs of these as well.

jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

I have Olympic wrestling tickets from 1928 until now and just missing Tokyo and Barcelona to have them all. It is just something that I have done for fun. I have a ton of amateur wrestling cards and where my collection started.

[wrestlingcardking]

What are the dimensions of that Royal Tailor?

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

WOW. I've been looking for every single one of those postcards!

Shown it before but here is the Royal Tailor I have.



jeff

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by wrestlingcardking

What are the dimensions of that Royal Tailor?

19x22

jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

I just traded for 9 Gotch postcards tonight so I may have some extras by the end of the week....I think that 6 are duplicates or maybe 7

[wrestlingcardking]

I picked up another 11 Frank Gotch postcards this morning....I should have them by Thursday or Friday.

[wrestlingcardking]

I got this graded and this is a great addition to my collection of Gotch and Hackenschmidt items.

26781921 N0: AUTHENTIC 1911 Wrestling-Stub Stub Gotch vs. Hackenschmidt Sep.4, White Sox Park Ticket

[jefferyepayne]

This large cabinet is not of Gotch but the man who trained Gotch. Farmer Burns.



jeff

[wrestlingcardking]

There is a story around this piece but not quite sure what it is.......

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by wrestlingcardking

There is a story around this piece but not quite sure what it is.......

Not much info on Gotch's son, but found this interesting tidbit:

"Sandow was able to get photos of Lewis posing with 12 year old Frank Gotch Jr in newspapers all over the nation on February 20. The Strangler claimed that Gotch senior had taught him many things early in his career and he was going to pass the knowledge on to Junior. Lewis promised to take Junior "in tow" and make a wrestling champion out of him, just like his Dad. It was brilliant PR by Sandow but, 20 years later, Junior was working as a financial analyst in Houston. I also found it funny that the report called Lewis the ex-champion."

http://www.wrestling-titles.com/pers...ewisbio20.html

[Cozumeleno]

This one's been shown here but it's my only Gotch. Picked it up a few months ago on COMC when they had a big sale going.

[wrestlingcardking]

Very nice, if you are looking for more cards from the 16 card Max Rigot series let me know. I have a good selection of them yet as I look to upgrade my set.

[sthoemke]

Gotch Jr. and "Strangler" Lewis photo from Santa Cruz Evening News, Volume 37, Number 102, 1 March 1926

[wrestlingcardking]

Very cool picture Steve!

[wrestlingcardking]

i have a good selection of postcards of Gotch now....probably 60

[Shunt]

Does anybody know if this postcard came with the writing on it or not? Thanks in advance!

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by Shunt

Does anybody know if this postcard came with the writing on it or not? Thanks in advance!

The writing is part of the photo.

[Shunt]

Thank you!

[wrestlingcardking]

I found that i have a healthy stack of Frank Gotch postcards if anyone is interested in them. My duplicates are more out of hand than I thought! I have been actively collecting these over the last 15 plus years and always willing to add more that I do not have.