battlefield0516 t206 on ebay

[TheNightmanCometh]

If I were to get battlefield to block me from bidding, would that mean I'd be able to no longer see her listings? If so, I'm gonna spam her message box until she blocks me.

[Louieman]

Unfortunately I noticed this thread after bidding and winning a brooks robinson fleer card from battlefield the other day. Just got it in the mail today and there is a clear brown spot on the border of the card that miraculously wasn't there in the scan. So she definitely is photo shopping. That, or her top loaders generate bacteria like a petri dish. It was a $13 card but I'll definitely be demanding a refund. We'll see how it goes

[Yoda]

I have taken a look at some of the newly- listed, high-end Battlefields cards and have noticed something different in her description for the '53 Topps Mantle. Usually for of these type beauties, eg. '54 Topps Aaron she will state "authentic and unaltered" This statement, of course, gives rise to recourse for a winning bidder who finds out otherwise. She only states for the Topps Mantle that it is authentic. Hmm, the Sherlock in me deduces that perhaps she knows something about the Mick's card which makes her drop the unaltered bit. Hmm.
On the other hand, her new scans are pretty darn good. That is, of course, if you know what you are looking at

[Beatles Guy]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

If I were to get battlefield to block me from bidding, would that mean I'd be able to no longer see her listings? If so, I'm gonna spam her message box until she blocks me.

I've blocked her from my searches under Advanced Settings.

[Leon]

I am going to see if I can get the authorities interested in this one. It's just wrong....

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg

[Bretsky]

How is this person still allowed to sell on Ebay? I remember being scammed by him or her a year ago on a high end 55 All American card that was definitely not in the picture.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bretsky

How is this person still allowed to sell on Ebay? I remember being scammed by him or her a year ago on a high end 55 All American card that was definitely not in the picture.

$$$$$ for Ebay, that is why


.

[Mdmtx]

I got battlefielded right in the kiester once. I bought a parkhurst nagurski and the back had road rash. I gave a negative but kept the card.

[D.P.Johnson]

Carol's a nasty woman.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

$$$$$ for Ebay, that is why


.

And they still award her the "Top Rated Plus" gold ribbon??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILLIE-MAYS-...item5b2d24d4ef

Good luck, Leon. I hope you are successful!

She needs to go!

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

I got battlefielded right in the kiester once. I bought a parkhurst nagurski and the back had road rash. I gave a negative but kept the card.

I don't understand how this is 'getting him'. He does not seem to care about negative feedback, just the profit, which you gave him.

[Mdmtx]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

I don't understand how this is 'getting him'. He does not seem to care about negative feedback, just the profit, which you gave him.

Read my post again. It alludes to them cheating me. I think you did not understand my attempt at a humorous ploy on words.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

Read my post again. It alludes to them cheating me. I think you did not understand my attempt at a humorous ploy on words.

Gotcha.

[irv]

29 bids at time of posting.

People either don't check out her feedback, or they see the "Top Rated" Gold ribbon and think she must be honest.

That Gold, Top Rated seller ribbon bothers me!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUKE-SNIDER-...YAAOSwn7JYCabS

[1952boyntoncollector]

The seller really profits of the greed of the buyers who think the spotted a great deal on ebay, even though who the heck would sell a 1000 card raw on ebay etc.. people thinking they are buying a psa 2-5 etc and its going to come back authentic.

[ezez420]

For some reason I do not think a lady is doing this

[spaidly]

Originally Posted by ezez420

For some reason I do not think a lady is doing this

She may be a woman but she ain't no lady.

[Leon]

The authority whom I spoke tp about this, this morning, had a chuckle over the top rated status. Maybe TOP Fraudster would be more like it. At the end of the day I think the only one to get this crooked seller is going to be their Karma. Since they give immediate refunds it is going to be hard to find a victim and it won't be a case most authorities want to take. I guess we will have to be the police on this fraudster. Report them to ebay, give them negatives and make their fraudulent lifestyle hell, is about all we can do. I tried....

Originally Posted by irv

29 bids at time of posting.

People either don't check out her feedback, or they see the "Top Rated" Gold ribbon and think she must be honest.

That Gold, Top Rated seller ribbon bothers me!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUKE-SNIDER-...YAAOSwn7JYCabS

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

The authority whom I spoke tp about this, this morning, had a chuckle over the top rated status. Maybe TOP Fraudster would be more like it. At the end of the day I think the only one to get this crooked seller is going to be their Karma. Since they give immediate refunds it is going to be hard to find a victim and it won't be a case most authorities want to take. I guess we will have to be the police on this fraudster. Report them to ebay, give them negatives and make their fraudulent lifestyle hell, is about all we can do. I tried....

She probably knows that, unfortunately, and that is why she is so brazen.
I know I will never purchase anything from her but sending her frequent messages might be something I'd do

Thanks for trying, Leon.

[iwantitiwinit]

Simply said this kind of lowdown nickel and dime scumbag stuff really pisses me off.

[PhillipAbbott79]

It is pretty far from nickel and dime now. The price is over 600. It's probably going to go for even more.

If this person is making 400.00 a day they are stealing an awful lot of money.

[Yoda]

I have to believe this board is a major irritant to them, or they are just past caring about deceiving bidders and ruining what little reputation they have left. Tonight's ending auctions might be a watershed moment for them, particularly the T206 Old Mill Young described as "authentic and unaltered" and tks to this forum we know otherwise. Last I saw the card was sailing towards a grand with multiple bidders. The happy winner with dollar signs flashing in his eyes will no doubt rush it PSA and receive a rude awakening.

[FirstYearCards]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TED-WILLIAMS...4AAOSwo4pYDt6B

Great looking card!!

[Mdmtx]

if they are outwardly and openly selling items that are not as advertised, why has no one gone after them? I know there are several attorneys on this board, maybe one of them can chime in. I have no idea if their auctions are all bad or not, but my single transaction with them was not as advertised for sure. Why does eBay allow it? If they truly are breaking the law, why are we all powerless?

Mark

[autograf]

Same thing on the nonsports side............

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

if they are outwardly and openly selling items that are not as advertised, why has no one gone after them? I know there are several attorneys on this board, maybe one of them can chime in. I have no idea if their auctions are all bad or not, but my single transaction with them was not as advertised for sure. Why does eBay allow it? If they truly are breaking the law, why are we all powerless?

Mark

Because stuff beats out ethics!

Some people actually keep the card when they receive it in "not as described condition", thereby enabling the process. Not me - I purchased 30 lots and returned 22 of them after leaving 17 negatives and 5 neutrals.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

My problem is the deliberate attempt to defraud that started this thread off. This isn't retouching or photoshopping or even trimming, this is taking a card you KNOW to be no good, and claiming it is.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

if they are outwardly and openly selling items that are not as advertised, why has no one gone after them? I know there are several attorneys on this board, maybe one of them can chime in. I have no idea if their auctions are all bad or not, but my single transaction with them was not as advertised for sure. Why does eBay allow it? If they truly are breaking the law, why are we all powerless?

Mark

I am also curious what other, honest, sellers think of her/them?

I am sure battlefield, in a round about way, is taking business from all of them.
I mean, take for instance, someone fairly new to the hobby, or even an average everyday collector, once they realize they have been burned, they are sworn off E-Bay for good.

We have a site up here called Kijiji, and it's amazing how many people won't even go near it due the scams and other shenanigans that often occur on there if you are not sharp.

I can't help but think the same goes with E-Bay. Fool me once...........

[Sean]

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TED-WILLIAMS...4AAOSwo4pYDt6B

Great looking card!!

Yeah, they always are. Until you actually receive them.

[jfkheat]

I think that the fact that most buyers don't bother to leave negative feedback once they get refunds is one reason that she/he has been able to stay around for so long.
James

[PhillipAbbott79]

I am awe struck by this whole thread and the seller, to be honest. I don't normally have much to say and more of a reader and a buyer.

Most of this may not be new. Here are some ideas:

• Always pay with a credit card
• File a report with a local police report pressing charges(This might require someone stepping up and taking a financial beating. You have time to file your charge back and your police report.)
• Report the seller to the IRS(the more reports the more the flags may get raised. If they cheat on cards they likely cheat on taxes also. A nice audit should do well. How many people get even a single phone call reporting them?)
• Leave negative feedback always
• If they agree to ship via USPS isn't that mail fraud?

[ullmandds]

The one time I got "duped" by the battleax...I was just so happy to get my money back after the shock of the cards when they arrived...I didn't care about leaving neg feedback!

[bobbyw8469]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...vip=true&rt=nc

$433 purchase sold for $1,500. That my friends, is why Battlefield will keep doing what she is doing.

[irv]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...vip=true&rt=nc

$433 purchase sold for $1,500. That my friends, is why Battlefield will keep doing what she is doing.

Unbelievable!!

Below every E-Bay listing at the bottom, there is a Security tab. I searched to the best of my ability and most seem to protect the seller, not the buyer?

I did find something yesterday that I can't locate today, and I wrote or filed a complaint but as of yet, I have heard nothing.
I did find this but I don't think it's what I used yesterday? Nothing easy about the process trying to tell E-Bay about these types of dis-honest sellers!
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/authe...ion.html#items

[Leon]

Let us know if you hear anything back....

Originally Posted by irv

Unbelievable!!

Below every E-Bay listing at the bottom, there is a Security tab. I searched to the best of my ability and most seem to protect the seller, not the buyer?

I did find something yesterday that I can't locate today, and I wrote or filed a complaint but as of yet, I have heard nothing.
I did find this but I don't think it's what I used yesterday? Nothing easy about the process trying to tell E-Bay about these types of dis-honest sellers!
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/authe...ion.html#items

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

Let us know if you hear anything back....

Nothing yet, Leon, and I am not expecting I will, but if I do, I will be sure to let you and the members know, for sure.

[Yoda]

I am having an interesting transaction with Battlefieldsd at the moment. I bid and won several cards from her to see if I could spot the photo shopping that seems to be the major complaint lodged against her. In an auction just a few weeks back, I won, among other cards, a '54 Topps Ford and a '69 Topps RC Jackson. The cards were the same as listed on her Ebay auction. Her scans and my loop confirmed that. But the Whitey had a serious ding on the upper left border and the Reggie a tiny corner crinkle not shown on her scan under high magnification. I sent her an email detailing the problem and asking how she would like to handle the matter. No reply, enough already, so yesterday I emailed again that I intended to return the cards for a full refund, would be leaving negative feedback and opening her to the full fury of the Net54 Board seriously, I think this forum has a positive influence on marketplace activities) unless I had some response by today. Nothing yet. Watch this page for further news.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I am having an interesting transaction with Battlefieldsd at the moment. I bid and won several cards from her to see if I could spot the photo shopping that seems to be the major complaint lodged against her. In an auction just a few weeks back, I won, among other cards, a '54 Topps Ford and a '69 Topps RC Jackson. The cards were the same as listed on her Ebay auction. Her scans and my loop confirmed that. But the Whitey had a serious ding on the upper left border and the Reggie a tiny corner crinkle not shown on her scan under high magnification. I sent her an email detailing the problem and asking how she would like to handle the matter. No reply, enough already, so yesterday I emailed again that I intended to return the cards for a full refund, would be leaving negative feedback and opening her to the full fury of the Net54 Board seriously, I think this forum has a positive influence on marketplace activities) unless I had some response by today. Nothing yet. Watch this page for further news.

imagine if there were no psa or sgc etc. We would have 1000s of returns and mis characterizations of condition. For the cheaper cards i think some people dont want to deal with going through the process of the return and eat the card... it does appear you will get a full refund and we will see those cards again for auction go for more than they went for when they were originally sold graded.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I emailed again that I intended to return the cards for a full refund, would be leaving negative feedback and opening her to the full fury of the Net54 Board seriously, I think this forum has a positive influence on marketplace activities) unless I had some response by today.

Quite likely your eBay account will be suspended for threatening negative feedback before the case has settled. She could definitely have your negative feedback removed if you threatened it in advance. If you get a full refund after you return the cards, is your experience still negative, or is it Neutral?
She's doing the wrong things, but you are too.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Quite likely your eBay account will be suspended for threatening negative feedback before the case has settled. She could definitely have your negative feedback removed if you threatened it in advance. If you get a full refund after you return the cards, is your experience still negative, or is it Neutral?
She's doing the wrong things, but you are too.

I think the poster's threat came after he got no reply though when he asked how to handle the issue. I dont see a problem of a least threatening negative feedback for not replying at least.

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Quite likely your eBay account will be suspended for threatening negative feedback before the case has settled. She could definitely have your negative feedback removed if you threatened it in advance. If you get a full refund after you return the cards, is your experience still negative, or is it Neutral?
She's doing the wrong things, but you are too.

I don't understand the comment that the experience is neutral. Even if his money is refunded eventually, he was deceived about the condition (disappointment), he was out the money for a time being (an inconvenience) and he received no timely response (frustrating to say the least). His time dealing with this and now having to send back cards at his own expense means he's actually invested resources in exchange for nothing. This is a negative experience, not a neutral one, and other buyers should be made aware. I'm not condoning the proactive threat of a negative, if that's against eBay rules, but I have no idea why anyone would characterize this is neutral.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I think the poster's threat came after he got no reply though when he asked how to handle the issue. I dont see a problem of a least threatening negative feedback for not replying at least.

Bingo!

[swarmee]

Not a problem; I was mainly playing Devil's Advocate. But make sure not to threaten negative feedback on eBay's messages in the future.

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I am having an interesting transaction with Battlefieldsd at the moment. I bid and won several cards from her to see if I could spot the photo shopping that seems to be the major complaint lodged against her. In an auction just a few weeks back, I won, among other cards, a '54 Topps Ford and a '69 Topps RC Jackson. The cards were the same as listed on her Ebay auction. Her scans and my loop confirmed that. But the Whitey had a serious ding on the upper left border and the Reggie a tiny corner crinkle not shown on her scan under high magnification. I sent her an email detailing the problem and asking how she would like to handle the matter. No reply, enough already, so yesterday I emailed again that I intended to return the cards for a full refund, would be leaving negative feedback and opening her to the full fury of the Net54 Board seriously, I think this forum has a positive influence on marketplace activities) unless I had some response by today. Nothing yet. Watch this page for further news.

If you read the feedback, she's notorious for not replying to emails.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Not a problem; I was mainly playing Devil's Advocate. But make sure not to threaten negative feedback on eBay's messages in the future.

Good point, but I made sure in my message only to mention the word feedback, not specifying positive or negative for the reasons you enumerated. I can't imagine the hassle of opening up a case with Ebay over a disputed Battlefield item. Makes me shudder to think about it.

[jfkheat]

There shouldn't be any hassle opening a eBay case. Open the case, eBay will supply you with a shipping label. Ship the card back. If battlefield doesn't give you a refund, eBay will step in and take the funds from her account.
James

[Louieman]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

There shouldn't be any hassle opening a eBay case. Open the case, eBay will supply you with a shipping label. Ship the card back. If battlefield doesn't give you a refund, eBay will step in and take the funds from her account.
James

Regarding this, I've done all these steps and will be getting my refund by tmrw or Wed I believe. What I'm wondering, however, is can I leave battlefield negative feedback without fear of her doing the same to me out of revenge? I do agree with some previous posters that the effort and time spent to deal with battlefield is not justified by the fact that I'm getting my money back

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by Louieman

Regarding this, I've done all these steps and will be getting my refund by tmrw or Wed I believe. What I'm wondering, however, is can I leave battlefield negative feedback without fear of her doing the same to me out of revenge? I do agree with some previous posters that the effort and time spent to deal with battlefield is not justified by the fact that I'm getting my money back

Absolutely. Sellers can't leave feedback for this very reason. I left her 17 negatives and 4 neutrals this summer and am still at 100% eBay rating.

[Louieman]

There seems to be something especially fishy going on with battlefield...so I left negative feedback yesterday, clearly stating my position that I think the seller altered the image for the listing. And then today I check to see that my comment has been usurped by a bunch of other positive feedback, almost all of which are from the same buyer. Maybe that's nothing but it seems quite convenient that my negative feedback, as well as the negative feedback of 5 or so other below me, is now somewhat hidden just at the right time

[irv]

Originally Posted by irv

Unbelievable!!

Below every E-Bay listing at the bottom, there is a Security tab. I searched to the best of my ability and most seem to protect the seller, not the buyer?

I did find something yesterday that I can't locate today, and I wrote or filed a complaint but as of yet, I have heard nothing.
I did find this but I don't think it's what I used yesterday? Nothing easy about the process trying to tell E-Bay about these types of dis-honest sellers!
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/authe...ion.html#items

Originally Posted by Leon

Let us know if you hear anything back....

I never heard a thing, not even a thanks for bringing it to their attention!

Originally Posted by Louieman

There seems to be something especially fishy going on with battlefield...so I left negative feedback yesterday, clearly stating my position that I think the seller altered the image for the listing. And then today I check to see that my comment has been usurped by a bunch of other positive feedback, almost all of which are from the same buyer. Maybe that's nothing but it seems quite convenient that my negative feedback, as well as the negative feedback of 5 or so other below me, is now somewhat hidden just at the right time

It seem she has immunity and anything that is unethical/suspect, she has no trouble getting away with.

I really hope someone, somewhere is pursuing her and looking to put her out of business for good!